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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 beyond the airport

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was announced that are flying there -

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found and is now in the possession of

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the RA the game is rigged change the

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game changer I occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and a GRA the global radio

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your help to get to the year 1985

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you understand to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge only game-changer Network

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yo yo yo yo yo yo yo

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fade to black the smoke radio for the

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masses

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today's Tuesday January 9th 9 days into

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the new year just 356 days left we are

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live from a bunker somewhere in downtown

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moist burbank california and i would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the united

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states hither hither to and fro back and

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forth up and down the east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to black

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for kjc are the game changer network and

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katie are a the planet army hosting the

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church what is cracking everybody how

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you doing alright in a great mood around

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here now for everybody that was watching

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me on the bunker cam right there and was

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watching the twitter feed

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you saw what I was doing in real time I

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was pretty cool huh I was dancing and

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tweeting then hit tweet and then blast

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man man man man man what are we gonna do

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well this is what we're gonna do now

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tonight's very special guest Michael

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Cremo is here no no no no tonight is the

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night for an education so you have to

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pay attention you got to get out your

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pens and pencils and your notepads and

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take notes and then after the show

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tonight because that's you're gonna go

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and research and do all of that stuff

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but certain shows here we do you know we

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have fun it's entertaining and and we

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just exchange stories in its greats

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great it's amazing i I get that and then

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other guests we've got to pay attention

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and you've got to stay focused for three

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hours and it's a commitment well you

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know what tonight it's a commitment

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tonight you need to focus okay tonight

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you got to focus

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it's Michael Cremo and

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we are going to discuss our human

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origins and I know when when you guys

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see the list of guests for the week

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right and you're checking that out and

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you do it week after week and you're

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looking you're like okay that's a night

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I can kind of just come in and hang out

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that's a night I can just kind of oh

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that's the night I got a focus well

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that's tonight tonight is coffee night

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it's not go Beckley tepee let's pound

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shots night no it's not all fun and

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games in the Twitter box tonight no it's

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not that it's Michael Cremo and I

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realize that when you see a guest like

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Michael Cremo

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and you see that posted there that's the

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serious hat that's when we put on the

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serious hat and you're excited because

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you are able to get your education on

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right and that's what you're gonna do

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tonight Michael Cremo is here human

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origins he went when we go down the list

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of game changers game changers game

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changers you got your time Anthony West

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sure you've got John or Robert Schoch of

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course you've got J Widener 100% you've

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got Graham Hancock right there Robert

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Bauval absolutely right these are game

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changers and there's there's you know

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Richard Dolan Jim Marrs Linda Moulton

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Howe game changer Stanton Friedman game

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changers game changers right okay Don

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Schmitt game changer so you know there's

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a list out there Michael Cremo is a game

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changer his book forbidden archeology

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changed the game 100% so get ready

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I realize that and you know and you're

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gonna hear his voice you're gonna get

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all comfortable you know just like you

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know when Mars would come on the show

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you hear Mars's voice Andy going to

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comfort zone and if you start to get

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your knowledge on and that's what we're

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gonna do tonight with Michael Cremo

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so get ready for that you'll be with

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it's at the bottom in the hour tomorrow

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night Corey Goode is here

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and we are going to talk about how we

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won the worn space that announcement

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today's Tuesday I believe it it's up

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over a divine cosmos we'll get those

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links up here in Twitter shortly okay

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I've got the article here I didn't go to

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divine cosmos to read it because they

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sent it to me

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Thursday night is another Fator night

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and the no more fake newsroom with Jon

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Rappoport followed by open lines all

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night long the Colin numbers of three

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follow like and subscribe the sandbox

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gonna go on tonight during the show is

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that's on Twitter we use TweetDeck and

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any questions or comments during the

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hashtag f2b q today i went into the

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studio the bunker by the way it's

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raining I'm gonna get to that in a

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second and TweetDeck wouldn't open right

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right I had notification Zion hashtag if

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to be hashtag if to be Q would not load

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it was a blank column I got rita's

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loading everything's loading

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everything's you know coming the end o F

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to be Q I'm thinking man what happened

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to Twitter shut down that hashtag did

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somebody come in here and say something

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and it took took a couple of run

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throughs but anyway mine's running fine

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now you can email throughout the show

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tonight Jimmy and Jimmy church radio

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calm and it's been raining here for

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three days and the the rain here I it's

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sprinkled a couple of times over the

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years over the year since of February

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but I've been reading the news and I

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guess it's true because I don't really

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remember

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we haven't had any significant rain here

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since February and now all of the fires

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and everything that rolled through here

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over the last couple of months certainly

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dried things out but today at least 13

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people have been killed in flash

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flooding and mudslides all across

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right now are working to evacuate 300

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people that are trapped up in Montecito

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Romero Canyon that's up near Santa

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Barbara five bodies were initially found

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earlier today in and around the town of

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Montecito but this late this afternoon

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the death count climbed to 13 and that

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that part of the state Montecito and

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Santa Barbara Montecito especially is a

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very affluent area that's where Oprah

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lives Rob Lowe lives up there Steve

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Martin lives up there John Cleese lives

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up there a lot of celebrities and these

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are big estates with a lot of vegetation

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and greenery and and things in and but

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that's the majority there isn't really a

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wrong side of the tracks up there and

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for these mudslides to come down that's

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how far the fires went Montecito

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probably back in 2009-2010 also burning

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a lot of big homes went went up in smoke

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I don't know if this is tied into that

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but nonetheless to have 13 people to

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high in mudslides after all of these

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fires when everybody is going through

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all of this devastation up there it is

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it is tragic and it's just it's just

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been a weird day and I'll get back to

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this more in just a bit our next event

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is coming up and it is today is the 9th

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and it's coming up February 9th through

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the 12th in one month 2018 at the LAX

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Hilton tickets and info are available

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straight over there last night we had a

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theresa generis here on the show and she

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will be at the conscious life expo i'll

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be hosting the ancient alien seminar our

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ancient aliens panel on friday night on

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saturday i will be hosting the party

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that they're gonna have saturday night

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over there and i think it's called the

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summer live the summer of love party the

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Saturday night and hanging out and

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and it's right there and some say the

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audio is better over on the bunker cam

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than it is on the

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radio feed and it's the same exact feed

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so it makes you wonder how well Google

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conversions because people say that the

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audio is better it it should be the same

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the the audience just split one goes to

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My Cousin Vinny you like that let's get

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happy birthday Jimmy let's let's do this

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I haven't done this in a while on

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Twitter let's light up Twitter not let's

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let's dude okay we could actually do two

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questions here what is Jimmy Page's best

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riff what song has his best riff and

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then let's do number two let's do two

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questions this second let's poll the

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second one would be what is Jimmy Page's

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best song right two different things

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because you've got things like I mean

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communication breakdown right one of the

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greatest guitar riffs of all time all

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right

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black dog one of the greatest guitar

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riffs of all time right so you have that

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and then you have the song's side by

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going to California right yeah the rain

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song no quarter no quarter well that

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could be a riff - no well that was

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actually John Paul Jones

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but then the riff section after the

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intro is pretty strong so but it's also

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a great song so

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what do we do black black mountainside

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that's that's up there I'm yeah Kashmir

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see Kashmir that's almost a song and a

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riff right that's that's going with

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stairway to heaven for yeah you got to

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for the song yeah I'm with you on that

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one I'm with you but but how do you

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decide that no quarter no quarter strong

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yeah no quarter strong what about the

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what about the rain song over the hills

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over the hills you know what I mean we

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could keep on going and then what about

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the wave if we go all the way up to like

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in through the out door all of my love

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right Wow I mean what do you do what do

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you do with that when you're when you're

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that talented and you look at somebody's

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body of work Jimmy Page you know

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extraordinary but what did you know what

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about communication breakdown and if you

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think about that what was that 1969 with

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the Beatles were rolling with Sergeant

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Pepper the White Album and whatever the

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Mamas and the Papas and all of that

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stuff going on and then page comes out

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with communication breakdown adds a

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game-changer pages best rift is Kashmir

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his best song is the music intro to the

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death wish movie that's actually pretty

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well done right there that's at some

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music knowledge let's see here yeah

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Kashmir I'm looking at this Kashmir is

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like a taking over who woulda thunk man

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hey hey mom I said the way you move

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gonna make you sweat

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you're gonna make me you know again

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black dog black dog that is the riff so

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trampled underfoot man you guys got the

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Zeppelin knowledge man I'm pretty

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impressed with this

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no quarter though cashmere cashmere

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looks like it's running away with this

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and that's really hard immigrant song

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yeah man that's that strong Olivia

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coming in with the trample underfoot and

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okay

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all of Zep is the best it's that's the

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political way out of this in the light

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yep yep yep yep yep

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in the light and have you seen there is

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somebody posts the link to this there is

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the peanuts singing in the light have

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you guys seen that somebody post that

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right there somebody posts the the

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peanuts singing in Hawaii it's really

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good it's really what doesn't somebody

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had a lot of time on their hands okay

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where am I at

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see that's what a Jimmy Page does to you

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happy birthday Jimmy 74 years old doug

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aldrich everybody who does the music

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here on the show doug aldrich has a Les

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Paul that Jimmy Page scratched on the

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back his initials and it's a J and a P

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combined so it's got the little Kurt you

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know so it's a J and the JP scratched in

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the back of his Les Paul

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also today actor JK Simmons is 63 you

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know JK from Oz I'll never forget him

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for Oz in fact that's all I remember him

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in he was good and Burn After Reading he

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was really good in Juneau and he's okay

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in those Farmers Insurance commercials I

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think it's farmers but it's eyes that

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put him on the map actor JK Simmons

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today is 63 our dead guys birthday today

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is I need a moment of silence here Bob

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Denver 1935 to 2005 died at the age of

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70 he start first on the TV series the

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many lives of Dobie Gillis

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or was it loves was it Many Loves of

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Dobie Gillis or many lives of Dobie

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Gillis I can remember so long ago it was

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before my time actually but then he

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moved on to mega stardom playing the

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part of Gilligan

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in Gilligan's Island and yeah yeah he

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owned the world for a minute

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happy birthday Bob Denver if you're

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listening

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on this day in history OTD in 1493 okay

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listen to me

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1493 oh there it is linked to the

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peanuts tune is that it right there

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is that it okay I'm gonna retweet this

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anyway Brian you better you send me the

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right link that doesn't say that doesn't

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say peanut singing in the light okay

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that looks like it's it oh man

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alright I'm not gonna I was gonna play

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it but where where am i somebody help me

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Oh 1493 on this day Explorer Christopher

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Columbus sailing near the Dominican

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Republic sees three mermaids in the

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water that's right

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puts in his log writes it down he sees

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three mermaids in reality he actually

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saw three manatees and describes them as

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you know not quite as beautiful as they

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have been painted and quote in the

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Captain's Log fader fact modern movies

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now for those of you out there that

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cheat remember this

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modern movies have an invisible

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watermark

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that can track any person filming at any

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theater illegally that's right was last

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time you went in and broke the law have

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you thought about that it's The Many

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Loves of Dobie Gillis is that right why

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was I thinking lives yeah The Many Loves

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of Dobie Gillis I swear I thought of

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those lives that's what I get for going

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off of my memory so when the levee

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breaks from Zeppelin four is my number

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one yeah yeah

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that's pretty good yeah Brian thank you

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for that I appreciate it that's a good

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link and i retweeted it fader fact oh I

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just did that tonight we have a very

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special guest Michael Cremo and we're

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going to be talking about human origins

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and tomorrow night Corey Goode is here

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we're going to talk about how we won the

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war in space

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he has posted that article today

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Thursday's another failure night with

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anamorphic news room with Jon Rappoport

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and open lines all night long three

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three three eighty five five zero four

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five four three two three two seven five

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nine six nine five now today if you're

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wondering why I have this great tone in

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my voice I'm uppity I feel good

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today the fourth quarter talk radio

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rankings and market share were released

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and so you know I get this email this

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morning I nemesis

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Jimmy Church in the news what's this

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right so I click on it you know not

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knowing what it is and it takes me over

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to a radio online and you know which is

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a talk radio forum and website and talk

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radio news and so there it is

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the fourth quarter q4 rankings of the

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top twenty five and with the market

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share and there we were we broke the top

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twenty five were right there at number

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25 they don't show number twenty six by

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the way right they only posed so there's

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no telling where we are we could be

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number 100 you know you just don't know

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you could be number twenty-six then you

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don't know and I see it posted every

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quarter and we're never on the list well

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we broke it right we're right there the

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top 25 for the first time it's a very

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big deal and going up and you look at

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the list you know you know some heavy

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cats up there right rush limbaugh alex

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jones and but there was something that

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caught my eye there and it's actually in

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the article that was written it's on the

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hole on the leader a lead article on the

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home page that paranormal radio has

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invaded the top 25 with you know nori

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and Clyde Lewis and myself now that

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we've broken you know the top 25 and so

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to see to see fade to black in that

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article listed with all of those other

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heavy cats and and and trust me

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when we take a look at that list the

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list is is heavy okay it's the best way

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that I can put it it's a heavy heavy

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list

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you've got rush you've got Michael

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Savage Laura Ingraham Sean Hannity right

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and there's you know Mark Levin Clyde

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Lewis Alex Jones George Noory Glenn Beck

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at number nine Hugh Hewitt right all the

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Howie Carr all the heavy dudes right

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there right there and down there at the

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bottom is fade to black Jimmy Church

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that's that's pretty cool now all of

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these talk show hosts here every single

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one of them is on a network feed so they

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have they have network and syndication

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and we don't do that we have kgr a we

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have talked stream live we have tuned in

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I'm trying to think what you know I

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heart but it's only us and that's pretty

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cool and so I saw Clyde Lewis there at

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number six so I picked up the phone and

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I call Clyde and to congratulate him

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have to write and I'm talking to Clyde

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and he says to me that last week he had

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a collar call in to ground zero and the

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caller said that they have been he has

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been going to a focus group once a week

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where they get together and they discuss

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Clyde Lewis and Jimmy Church discuss the

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guests they discussed the shows and they

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did discuss the topics of the week how

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cool was that last night on the show I

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was talking about expanding this

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audience and pushing it out and pushing

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it out and it's getting bigger and to

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have that going down now I want to know

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if anybody out there knows what this

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caller was talking about I'm Clyde Lewis

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I

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that a shout-out tonight let's see what

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is going on with that I want to know who

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they are and and where they're located

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and I would like to talk to them about

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it and certainly shoot me an email you

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know Jimmy and Jimmy Church radio.com

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but after and it's a really cool thing

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right and that's part of these rankings

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that went out today the quarter for

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rankings that's the influence that we

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are having in our community now right

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after those rankings were released right

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after that the power 50 most influential

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talk show host list was released and

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we've been on the list I think three

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years in a row maybe four three Rita

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helped me out on that I am trying to

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remember but we came in at number 29

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number 29 last year and you can when you

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go and you click on that list it's got

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all of the previous year's there last

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year we were number 33 excited about

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that I think the year before that we're

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like 38 or something I'm not sure but

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last year we were number 33 this year

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number 29 and again you go look at that

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list the the way that this is done and

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it's done by sampling servers so the

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software that is used for this takes a

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sampling of all the shows out there that

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are doing live streams and and and who's

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listening to what and that's how it's

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done

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okay and they did 5.6 million a sample

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group 5.6 million so it's a pretty good

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average of how they get this now we have

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a point for market share but we're

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sharing this with Rush and Michael

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Savage in Ingram and and and norian

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Jones and Lewis and how weak are you you

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it and Ann Imus

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these are Michael Medved these are big

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names and it's it's so cool to know that

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the little machine that could which has

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been fade to black

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and the fader knots in the way that

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things have gone with us because of you

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great things happen and it's just a slow

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step forward step forward step forward

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but we can turn around today and look

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and we've cracked the top 25

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we are 29 for the year in 2017 with the

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biggest names and talk radio right there

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and we did it because of the fader not

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because of you I want to thank you it's

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just been a great day we've been walking

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around on cloud nine I don't know how we

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got here

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I don't but we did and I want to thank

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each and every one of you thank you so

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much the best greatest baddest audience

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in the entire world right here unfaded

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black now I'm gonna get out of here

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coming right back with our guest tonight

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Michael Cremo we are gonna discuss human

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origins it's been a big year for

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conspiracy news big year right the

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alternative media big year perfect night

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for Michael Cremo to kick off 2018 I'm

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your host Jimmy Church who's fade to

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mean by intruders

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well intruders are toxins chemicals GMOs

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Chris are there side effects with this

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Ronnie where can people purchase life

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hi this is Rob Reiner from amel and

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the Shamy Church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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your host Jimmy Church on the game

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changer network 10k GRA the planet you

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can follow me on twitter at JDO you can

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follow Michael Cremo at Michael Cremo on

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Twitter the links are up there and

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Twitter right now we want to join in the

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conversation hashtag f2 B is the sandbox

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hashtag f2 b q are questions for myself

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or michael during the show tonight now

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michael known as the forbidden

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archaeologists is hailed as a

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groundbreaking research pioneer in

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international authority and

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archaeological anomalies his landmark

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bestseller forbidden archeology

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challenged the very foundation of the

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Darwinian evolution Cremo was a member

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of the world archaeological Congress and

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the European Association of

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archaeologists and after receiving a

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scholarship to the International Affairs

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at George Washington University he began

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to study the ancient Sanskrit writings

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of India known as the Vedas with all of

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the ground breaking news about recent

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discoveries around the world and

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everything that happened in 2017 tonight

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is the perfect night to discuss the true

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origins of man how old we really are and

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how we got here his website is M cream o

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dot-com the link sorry to me church

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radio calm you can just click and head

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straight there and I would like to

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welcome back to fade to black our our

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professor our good friend Michael Cremo

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Michael good evening how are you Jimmy

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I'm fine and it really is great to be

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back on fade to black

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you know you know you you have much love

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here The Fader knots and our audience is

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just just so excited about to have you

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back on the show but we all have the

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same question right now it's really

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raining here in Southern California you

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live down here with us how did you any

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any danger today any flooding or did you

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get through it okay no I got through it

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okay the part of town that I live in is

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pretty flat so

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no mudslides but it's the first real

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rain we've had in a long time so it's

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taken some getting used to

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there you know it's so funny around the

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country Michael it rains all the time

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is you know in the Midwest it just rains

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all year long and it's not appreciated

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out here when it rains you almost want

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to run out and dance in the streets

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don't you it's just it's just it's such

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an event it's an event when it rains in

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Southern California now what I wanted to

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jump into tonight is human origins and

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over the years when you've been on with

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us we've had so many subjects that we

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have covered on each show and we've kind

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of jumped into human origins a little

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bit but after 2017 this is this is my

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take and I want I want your vibe on this

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I think that our community and

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consciousness and Awakening has expanded

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around the world I think a lot of people

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are aware today that weren't in years

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past and I'm cool with that

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but with that we've had some pretty

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amazing revolutions not only out of

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geesa with the new chamber and the Great

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Pyramid but and and the new developments

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and gobekli tepe and certainly down on

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south america and and skulls and

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skeletons and DNA testing and all of

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this stuff is is going on but it's when

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people are aware of that Michael then

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they go back and they start to look at

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researchers like yourself and they dive

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back into it right do you think that's

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what was going on this year do you think

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that the awakening is starting to happen

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worldwide yeah there's lots of signs of

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that I think there is an explosion of

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interest in these topics because

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they really touch on very essence of our

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being you know the way that we define

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ourselves you know what we think we are

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has a big influence on our goals and our

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values and our ambitions in life and

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what I believed was that there's so much

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evidence that's contradicting the

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current theories namely that were just

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machines made of matter that have

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somehow evolved from primitive Apes and

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monkeys and were in competition with

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each other for survival I think that

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mentality has led to a world that's full

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of conflict on all levels of society

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among individuals among nations among

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classes among genders among religions

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and I think people are starting to

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realize that maybe we need new

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explanations for who we are and where we

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came from and that will help us make

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ourselves better as we move into the

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future do you think do it do you think

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it's gonna come to the point where we're

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going to close the book on Darwin do you

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think it'll come to that point well at

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least we'll get a proper understanding

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of what it really means to evolve

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because I believe there is an evolution

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of consciousness that we're all part of

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that we're moving to that higher

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understanding that I'm a being of care

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consciousness yura being of pure

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consciousness we're all beings of pure

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consciousness and we're all united on

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that platform and we shouldn't allow

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ourselves to be divided on the basis of

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superficial

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external differences like race and

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nationality and so on do you think

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that's what's your opinion on evolution

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in general when I looked at everything

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every species on this planet right now

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they are the same as they have ever been

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I don't see anything evolving that's how

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I look at it as well you know dog will

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give birth to a dog a cow will give

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birth to a cow a human being gives birth

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to a human being and I think there's a

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reason for that now well I think

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evolution comes in is an understanding

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that all of these bodies whether we're

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talking about a human body or an animal

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body or a plant body or an insect body

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bird body a fish body they're all

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vehicles for a conscious self the

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conscious self is what we really are

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we're different than the vehicles that

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we happen to be in right at the present

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moment like I'm a human being for

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example and I can ride on a bicycle I

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can go so fast if I get on a motorcycle

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I can go faster if I get in a car like a

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Maserati you're on more guinea or

812
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:47,849
something like that I can go even faster

813
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:51,369
if I get in a boat I can go along the

814
00:41:56,670 --> 00:41:53,710
water if I get in the submarine I can go

815
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:56,680
under the water if I get in an airplane

816
00:42:02,640 --> 00:41:59,440
I can fly in the sky I get in the space

817
00:42:05,819 --> 00:42:02,650
capsule I can go into outer space I'm

818
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:05,829
the same person but because of the

819
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:08,950
vehicle I mean I'm able to operate in a

820
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:11,410
different way so similarly in the

821
00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:14,890
process of reincarnation the soul the

822
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:18,670
conscious self the the being that we

823
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:23,710
really are can move from one type of

824
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:24,490
bottom

825
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:30,310
vehicle into another and the human

826
00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:33,250
vehicle is very special because in this

827
00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:36,550
vehicle we have the possibility of

828
00:42:44,010 --> 00:42:39,880
understanding these things and getting

829
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:44,020
out of that whole cycle of birth and

830
00:42:52,140 --> 00:42:47,470
death and having to take God of one of

831
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:52,150
these temporary material vehicles do you

832
00:42:57,810 --> 00:42:55,570
do you have a moment when we discuss

833
00:43:01,980 --> 00:42:57,820
evolution there's another the opposite

834
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:01,990
of that is D evolution and I have before

835
00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:02,950
he start laughing

836
00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:07,140
we have devolved a few times haven't we

837
00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:10,990
yeah actually I've written a whole book

838
00:43:16,590 --> 00:43:13,540
about this called him and evolution of

839
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:16,600
Vedic alternative to Darwin's theory and

840
00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:21,040
I use devolution and a couple of

841
00:43:29,310 --> 00:43:25,900
different senses one is the idea that as

842
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:29,320
conscious selves as individual personal

843
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:33,670
conscious selves we don't evolve up from

844
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:36,810
matter matter does not produce

845
00:43:43,050 --> 00:43:39,850
consciousness consciousness is not

846
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,060
produced by chemicals in the brain as

847
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:45,520
many scientists now think whether

848
00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:48,330
consciousness has its own existence

849
00:43:56,849 --> 00:43:54,460
apart from matter and it has its own

850
00:44:00,590 --> 00:43:56,859
independent existence it can come into

851
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:00,600
contact with matter and become covered

852
00:44:10,109 --> 00:44:05,770
by manner that's our current state but

853
00:44:12,810 --> 00:44:10,119
that means we as conscious beings we

854
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:12,820
haven't evolved up for a matter we've

855
00:44:20,670 --> 00:44:16,330
come down from some higher level we've

856
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:20,680
come down or devolved as conscious

857
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:23,700
beings into a state worm we're now in

858
00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:27,090
contact with matter which limits

859
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:33,070
consciousness in various various ways so

860
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:35,890
that's and that's the main sense and

861
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:37,570
which I use the word

862
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:40,570
evolution now once the conscious self

863
00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:43,150
has entered into the world of matter and

864
00:44:51,630 --> 00:44:47,950
takes on material vehicles that we call

865
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:51,640
bodies the function on this level of

866
00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:56,650
reality there's a cycle of reincarnation

867
00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:00,640
any material vehicle any material body

868
00:45:07,350 --> 00:45:03,940
only lasts for a fixed period of time

869
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:07,360
and when it's time is over you get

870
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:11,380
another one based on your state or level

871
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:13,930
of consciousness and it's possible

872
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:18,130
either to make progress going upward in

873
00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:20,890
the cycle of reincarnation or it's

874
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:24,340
possible to devolve to go backwards in

875
00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:28,570
the cycle of reincarnation and take on

876
00:45:37,950 --> 00:45:34,830
lower bodies lower kinds of bodies and

877
00:45:41,220 --> 00:45:37,960
another kind of devolution that goes on

878
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:41,230
is the result of what I call the

879
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:44,410
principle of karma that whatever sorts

880
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:48,400
of activities that we perform come back

881
00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:52,510
on us so it's possible for us

882
00:46:01,170 --> 00:45:56,230
collectively as human beings to act in

883
00:46:05,070 --> 00:46:01,180
such selfish egotistical ways that we

884
00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:05,080
produce a huge amount of bad karma which

885
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:09,820
comes back on human society in the form

886
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:14,730
of war economic disturbances

887
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:17,650
environmental disturbances and things

888
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:20,830
like that so that's another kind of

889
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:24,540
devolution that can be going on where

890
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:29,110
instead of making gradual progress in

891
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:32,770
our human civilization we're making

892
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:35,650
things worse that appears to be

893
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:38,500
happening at the present moment well it

894
00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:40,510
happened with Greece happened with Rome

895
00:46:45,090 --> 00:46:43,240
happened with Egypt it's going down

896
00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:45,100
right now in the United States am I not

897
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:49,740
met well maybe globally right now that

898
00:46:57,420 --> 00:46:51,550
entire culture

899
00:47:00,680 --> 00:46:57,430
are affected by bad karma yeah so but

900
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:00,690
that can be changed it just depends upon

901
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:03,850
the decisions that we make as

902
00:47:10,890 --> 00:47:07,960
individuals when you remark that it's

903
00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:10,900
raining now in Southern California well

904
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:12,760
just because it's raining it doesn't

905
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:14,440
mean you have to get wet

906
00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:16,960
now you can shelter yourself you can

907
00:47:24,420 --> 00:47:20,700
shell through those you care about and

908
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:24,430
in that way we each have a

909
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:28,810
responsibility to make the right kinds

910
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:31,510
of decisions in our lives

911
00:47:41,310 --> 00:47:36,400
that will either entangle us more and

912
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:41,320
more deeply in the problems that come

913
00:47:48,930 --> 00:47:46,720
from what we could call bad karma or we

914
00:47:52,770 --> 00:47:48,940
can make the sorts of decisions that

915
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:52,780
will improve things for us individually

916
00:48:01,140 --> 00:47:59,290
and collectively when you when when you

917
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,150
when you go up a level and you

918
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:03,760
reincarnate and you come back and you're

919
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:08,050
progressing are and and please

920
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:12,010
understand the question are vegans going

921
00:48:16,050 --> 00:48:14,530
up a level when they reincarnate you

922
00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:16,060
know do you know what I mean

923
00:48:26,010 --> 00:48:19,420
are they is this aha are they realizing

924
00:48:31,550 --> 00:48:26,020
are they going up levels I think we have

925
00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:31,560
to understand that if we cause pain and

926
00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:34,740
suffering to other living things

927
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:40,600
somehow or other it's going to come back

928
00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:48,640
on us so if we can do things that reduce

929
00:48:57,570 --> 00:48:53,260
the amount of violence and suffering we

930
00:49:02,809 --> 00:48:57,580
cause not to just other human beings but

931
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:02,819
to other species as well that

932
00:49:09,799 --> 00:49:06,390
I believe in step in the right right

933
00:49:15,289 --> 00:49:09,809
direction now I think there's there's an

934
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:15,299
even bigger principle involved and that

935
00:49:24,739 --> 00:49:20,689
means understanding that our sustenance

936
00:49:28,699 --> 00:49:24,749
really comes from not from our own

937
00:49:32,799 --> 00:49:28,709
efforts you know I'm a theist that kind

938
00:49:37,779 --> 00:49:32,809
of person I believe that there is a

939
00:49:41,419 --> 00:49:37,789
source of all of us that is like us

940
00:49:44,029 --> 00:49:41,429
individual personal and conscious so I

941
00:49:49,939 --> 00:49:44,039
think there's a source of all conscious

942
00:49:54,829 --> 00:49:49,949
beings and that if we understand that

943
00:49:58,989 --> 00:49:54,839
and even in our eating we display some

944
00:50:03,769 --> 00:49:58,999
recognition of that that were all

945
00:50:06,979 --> 00:50:03,779
getting our sustenance from a higher

946
00:50:10,669 --> 00:50:06,989
power and we understand that and

947
00:50:16,279 --> 00:50:10,679
recognize that even in our process of

948
00:50:19,219 --> 00:50:16,289
eating and we're thankful for that and

949
00:50:23,329 --> 00:50:19,229
we understand that we should be doing it

950
00:50:25,669 --> 00:50:23,339
in a way that causes the least amount of

951
00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:25,679
violence and suffering to other living

952
00:50:37,099 --> 00:50:31,140
things and yes that is a step forward I

953
00:50:39,859 --> 00:50:37,109
believe on the evolutionary path when we

954
00:50:41,809 --> 00:50:39,869
look back know we're gonna be headed

955
00:50:45,289 --> 00:50:41,819
towards break and we're gonna go way

956
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:45,299
back in time in the next segment but if

957
00:50:54,140 --> 00:50:50,249
we look back to say something simple if

958
00:50:56,419 --> 00:50:54,150
we look back to ancient Egypt but let's

959
00:50:59,479 --> 00:50:56,429
kind of start there where this

960
00:51:02,120 --> 00:50:59,489
civilization rose out of the desert

961
00:51:04,789 --> 00:51:02,130
seemingly out of nowhere

962
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:04,799
same thing with ancient Sumer we can you

963
00:51:12,109 --> 00:51:08,609
know call it the same thing and and rose

964
00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:12,119
out of nowhere but also degraded really

965
00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:15,840
fast too as well and the

966
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:17,670
the path that both of those cultures

967
00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:20,070
were on it seemed to me that they should

968
00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:21,750
have had computers and cars in the

969
00:51:25,730 --> 00:51:23,790
internet inside of a thousand years

970
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:25,740
you know the progression that they made

971
00:51:31,310 --> 00:51:27,450
so quickly instead they went in the

972
00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:31,320
opposite direction and they imploded and

973
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:36,150
and fell apart upon themselves how many

974
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:37,440
times do you think that that has

975
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:41,010
happened throughout history way back

976
00:51:46,220 --> 00:51:44,490
when there is no historical record for

977
00:51:48,890 --> 00:51:46,230
something like this we know that it's

978
00:51:50,660 --> 00:51:48,900
happened in recent history right how

979
00:51:54,620 --> 00:51:50,670
many times you think this is this has

980
00:52:01,850 --> 00:51:54,630
gone on in the past well you know it's

981
00:52:05,780 --> 00:52:01,860
interesting if you look at the writings

982
00:52:10,820 --> 00:52:05,790
of the Greek historian Herodotus he

983
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:10,830
tells how once he went to Egypt and he

984
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:16,110
was talking with one of the Egyptian

985
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:20,190
priests at that time a couple thousand

986
00:52:27,410 --> 00:52:25,680
years ago and the Egyptian priests asked

987
00:52:31,310 --> 00:52:27,420
him what is the history of the Greek

988
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:31,320
people and you know he explained how

989
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:35,490
there was some initial state of chaotic

990
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:39,810
state and the first man and woman arose

991
00:52:46,340 --> 00:52:41,810
and then they established their

992
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:46,350
civilization and the Egyptian priests

993
00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:50,910
told him well actually your history goes

994
00:52:57,830 --> 00:52:53,540
back much further than that because that

995
00:53:03,710 --> 00:52:57,840
state that chaotic state you mentioned

996
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:03,720
was a devastation that took place wiping

997
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:07,710
out life on this level of reality but

998
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:10,680
before that there was another cycle of

999
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:13,710
time when there were people on earth and

1000
00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:17,310
before that another cycle another cycle

1001
00:53:22,550 --> 00:53:19,980
this is something that I've gotten from

1002
00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:22,560
my studies of the ancient Sanskrit

1003
00:53:29,870 --> 00:53:27,420
writings of India that time goes in vast

1004
00:53:33,860 --> 00:53:29,880
cycles and that humans have

1005
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:33,870
Asians have risen and fallen many times

1006
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:37,170
in the wrong history of the earth and

1007
00:53:44,660 --> 00:53:40,530
that's something you'll find mention in

1008
00:53:47,660 --> 00:53:44,670
the writings of Plato and Aristotle as

1009
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:47,670
well yeah something they got from the

1010
00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:50,930
Egyptians who probably got it from

1011
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:54,180
civilizations further to the east this

1012
00:54:01,790 --> 00:53:58,050
idea that humans have been present for

1013
00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:01,800
vast periods of time on earth and there

1014
00:54:09,730 --> 00:54:05,630
have been these cycles that involve

1015
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:09,740
periodic catastrophes and devastations

1016
00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:16,710
the if you look at the history on the

1017
00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:20,040
walls of Ed foo in in ancient Egypt

1018
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:21,780
which is something that Herodotus was

1019
00:54:27,710 --> 00:54:23,730
directly referring to that was done at

1020
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:27,720
400 BC when he went to Egypt and they

1021
00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:31,050
specifically say right there well yeah

1022
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:33,990
we can go back to 3000 BC back to

1023
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:37,200
mayonnaise but it actually that's just

1024
00:54:42,860 --> 00:54:40,200
the start of dynastic Egypt we were here

1025
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:42,870
for thousands and thousands of years

1026
00:54:48,380 --> 00:54:45,960
before that and and great floods and

1027
00:54:53,330 --> 00:54:48,390
islands and knowledge and gods

1028
00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:53,340
it stretches way back into the Ice Age

1029
00:54:59,810 --> 00:54:55,980
and it's something that modern

1030
00:55:02,240 --> 00:54:59,820
historians don't want to recognize as as

1031
00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:02,250
part of the historical record why do you

1032
00:55:10,790 --> 00:55:07,800
think that is well you know not all the

1033
00:55:13,610 --> 00:55:10,800
Egyptians said that but yeah you were

1034
00:55:16,070 --> 00:55:13,620
talking about the Sumerians and the

1035
00:55:18,860 --> 00:55:16,080
Babylonians and people from that part of

1036
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:18,870
the world their histories that were

1037
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:23,430
recorded by an historian named Berossus

1038
00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:27,390
had kingless going back four hundred and

1039
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:29,880
thirty two thousand years right right

1040
00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:32,640
which is really quite quite amazing and

1041
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:34,440
the ancient Sanskrit writings of India

1042
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:38,400
have histories that go back even further

1043
00:55:45,820 --> 00:55:43,050
in time so what that tends to me

1044
00:55:49,850 --> 00:55:45,830
is that these ancient civilizations

1045
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:49,860
these ancient wisdom traditions had the

1046
00:55:56,570 --> 00:55:54,330
idea that humans have always been

1047
00:55:58,580 --> 00:55:56,580
present on earth since the very

1048
00:56:03,170 --> 00:55:58,590
beginning of the history of life here

1049
00:56:06,770 --> 00:56:03,180
which tends to indicate that there's a

1050
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:06,780
reason for us being here that we had

1051
00:56:12,260 --> 00:56:09,450
will coexist that when the history of

1052
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:12,270
the earth that suggests that the earth

1053
00:56:21,620 --> 00:56:17,130
was deliberately manifested as a place

1054
00:56:25,550 --> 00:56:21,630
for conscious cells to exist in

1055
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:25,560
connection with matter and that

1056
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:28,770
arrangement must been made by some

1057
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:32,010
higher conscious being and I think

1058
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:35,700
that's something that modern science

1059
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:40,380
just is totally unwilling to accept they

1060
00:56:46,460 --> 00:56:43,890
prefer the idea that were just accidents

1061
00:56:49,610 --> 00:56:46,470
of evolution that have taken place and

1062
00:56:53,810 --> 00:56:49,620
an accidental universe that just

1063
00:56:57,620 --> 00:56:53,820
happened by chance somehow because if

1064
00:57:01,330 --> 00:56:57,630
that's true then they can be the

1065
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:01,340
controllers they can control and

1066
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:04,730
dominate everything for their own

1067
00:57:12,290 --> 00:57:08,640
selfish purposes and that's the kind of

1068
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:12,300
world that they prefer to have let's I

1069
00:57:17,260 --> 00:57:13,710
don't know I think what that's

1070
00:57:20,810 --> 00:57:17,270
ultimately what's at stake I think the

1071
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:20,820
the opportunity here to rewrite history

1072
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:26,130
in our education system that opportunity

1073
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:28,410
is there why do they not we've only got

1074
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:31,290
about 60 seconds here Michael why don't

1075
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:33,810
they offer alternatives to this like

1076
00:57:38,900 --> 00:57:36,450
writers like you attend universities and

1077
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:38,910
you speak all over I get that part but

1078
00:57:45,110 --> 00:57:41,370
I'm talking about like just sitting down

1079
00:57:48,550 --> 00:57:45,120
and presenting another possibility why

1080
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:48,560
why is that door constantly closed

1081
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,450
because they have a government

1082
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:54,240
enforcement awfully in the education

1083
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system and they want to keep it there

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what any and it would cost a lot of

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money to reprint all those books and

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yeah there's even deeper reasons but

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maybe we'll have to get into them we'll

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do that right after yeah we'll do that

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right after the break our guest tonight

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Michael Cremo and when we come back

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after the break we're gonna go way back

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we have to we're gonna start at the

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beginning our guest tonight Michael

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Cremo the forbidden archaeologist I'm

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arrows Timmy Church

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let's let's start here if we look at us

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01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:50,380
you and I it's generally accepted that

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we have been here for around hundred and

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01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:55,930
fifty thousand to two hundred thousand

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:02:58,240
years I don't know where the missing

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01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:00,370
link is I don't know what we've evolved

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01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:02,320
from I don't think we evolved from

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01:03:07,740 --> 01:03:05,200
anything I think we were we were put

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01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:07,750
here but that's that's my own take but

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01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:10,390
if we go back and I like what you said

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:13,510
earlier so on I want to go here now if

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01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:16,690
we go way back millions of years even

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01:03:23,370 --> 01:03:18,370
billions of years and through these

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01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:23,380
different cycles of us being here how

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01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:26,740
did we get here how did that perfect DNA

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show up on this planet the first thing

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to understand is that we are in our

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essence beings of pure consciousness

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that's what we really are we aren't the

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body made of chemicals DNA different

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01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:53,850
kinds of molecules consciousness

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ultimately is something completely

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01:04:04,860 --> 01:04:01,540
different from that no scientist has

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01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:04,870
ever shown how you can combine chemicals

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and get consciousness out of it

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consciousness has its own independent

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existence and originally each individual

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01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:21,910
conscious self is meant to exist on a

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higher level of reality that I call the

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wobble of pure consciousness and

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ruling principle of that level of pure

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01:04:43,429 --> 01:04:38,880
consciousness is harmonious loving

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01:04:47,699 --> 01:04:43,439
cooperation among all individual

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conscious selves and the source of all

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of them the source of all conscious

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01:04:58,699 --> 01:04:54,599
beings if a conscious self becomes

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egotistical selfish domineering

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01:05:06,989 --> 01:05:02,769
controlling exploiting it can no longer

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exist on that higher level of reality so

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01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:11,259
there must be an alternative reality for

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:16,089
it to exist in and that is the material

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01:05:25,709 --> 01:05:20,650
level of reality and when a conscious

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01:05:30,989 --> 01:05:25,719
self comes to the material level of

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01:05:34,049 --> 01:05:30,999
reality it means vehicles in which to

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function on this level of reality now

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for example on a human I normally walk

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around on the land if I want to exist in

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an alien element like water if I want to

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01:05:49,979 --> 01:05:47,140
exist under the water for more than a

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01:05:50,849 --> 01:05:49,989
few seconds I'm going to need some kind

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of vehicle

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I'm going to need a little submarine or

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a diving suit or something like that

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01:06:04,229 --> 01:05:59,709
that will allow me to function in the

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01:06:06,749 --> 01:06:04,239
alien element of water so where does

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01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:06,759
that diving suit or little submarine

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01:06:13,890 --> 01:06:10,559
come from comes from an engineer who

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01:06:16,579 --> 01:06:13,900
understands that if a human being is

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going to live under the water it needs

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01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:21,039
such a vehicle so the engineer designs

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01:06:28,859 --> 01:06:26,049
it builds it and somebody uses it to

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live under the water travel under the

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water so similarly there's a higher

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intelligence in the cosmos that

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understands if conscious cells are going

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to exist in the world of matter they

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need

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vehicles made of matter in which to

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function on this level of reality so

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01:06:57,570 --> 01:06:54,760
those vehicles are made of matter in the

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form of different molecules and DNA

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:01,960
ultimately and where does that come from

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01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:04,210
well it comes from a higher intelligence

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01:07:11,370 --> 01:07:07,990
of the cosmos that is engineered these

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01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:11,380
vehicles nobody has really explained how

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:15,570
these things come about in any detail

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01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:19,330
really scientific way we're just asked

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01:07:27,530 --> 01:07:22,330
to believe that somehow or other it

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01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:27,540
happened right by evolution but these

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01:07:34,349 --> 01:07:31,270
different kinds of bodily vehicles are

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01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:34,359
designed and engineered by a higher

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intelligence and the cosmos and they're

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provided right at the very beginning and

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they can be used for a dual purpose one

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01:07:54,270 --> 01:07:51,520
purpose you can use the bodily vehicle

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01:07:58,859 --> 01:07:54,280
for is to get more and more deeply

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entangled in trying to dominate control

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01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:02,849
and exploit others trying to dominate

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01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:06,820
control and exploit the material energy

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:10,480
and its various forms in competition

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with each other

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collectively and individually or you can

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use the vehicle to try to understand

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i'muh being a pure consciousness yura

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being of pure consciousness we're all

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01:08:32,930 --> 01:08:29,680
beings of pure consciousness let's try

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01:08:35,940 --> 01:08:32,940
to satisfy our material needs

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01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:35,950
cooperatively without dividing ourselves

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01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:38,890
up into so many competing groups let's

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01:08:46,650 --> 01:08:42,130
try to satisfy our needs of the most

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01:08:50,670 --> 01:08:46,660
simple natural fair and efficient way

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01:08:53,550 --> 01:08:50,680
possible while putting most of our human

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01:08:57,420 --> 01:08:53,560
energy into developing that resource of

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consciousness and restoring

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01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:02,440
this to its original pure state I have

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01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:05,620
to jump in here really quick and let our

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01:09:12,210 --> 01:09:08,110
audience know around the world in the

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01:09:16,230 --> 01:09:12,220
Caribbean a 7.6 magnitude quake has just

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01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,240
struck and there are tsunami warnings

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01:09:19,350 --> 01:09:18,400
for Puerto Rico the Virgin Islands it's

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01:09:23,970 --> 01:09:19,360
right in the middle of the Caribbean

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01:09:27,810 --> 01:09:23,980
above Honduras and just east of the

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01:09:30,150 --> 01:09:27,820
Yucatan Peninsula and it is pretty

1287
01:09:32,430 --> 01:09:30,160
severe it's a pretty severe quake so if

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01:09:34,050 --> 01:09:32,440
you're listening to this show and you

1289
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:34,060
may not know that this earthquake has

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01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:36,970
occurred you may have a tsunami warning

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01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:39,430
if you are anywhere in the Caribbean

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01:09:45,330 --> 01:09:43,210
right now and please go and listen to

1293
01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:45,340
your local news and find out what's

1294
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:49,710
going on it just struck right now as

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01:09:58,350 --> 01:09:51,610
about 30 minutes ago

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01:10:01,440 --> 01:09:58,360
okay now Michael if we if we look at the

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01:10:06,090 --> 01:10:01,450
odds I don't know what the odds are but

1298
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:06,100
the odds of DNA sequence to be placed

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01:10:12,150 --> 01:10:09,010
perfectly in order for you and us to be

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01:10:14,490 --> 01:10:12,160
talking on this show right that perfect

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01:10:22,770 --> 01:10:14,500
DNA sequence there are those out there

1302
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:22,780
that really want to accept and educate

1303
01:10:29,490 --> 01:10:26,170
on that it was just luck

1304
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:29,500
it was just nature lightening struck on

1305
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:32,320
a piece of crystal in a creek an amino

1306
01:10:40,170 --> 01:10:35,170
acids went perfect and then out popped

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01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:40,180
perfect DNA it the odds of that I don't

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01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,550
know how big of a number that is but it

1309
01:10:46,650 --> 01:10:45,040
would stretch across our solar system

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01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:46,660
the number would be so great

1311
01:10:53,490 --> 01:10:51,040
why won't they give in that there must

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01:10:55,230 --> 01:10:53,500
be something divine here's a higher

1313
01:10:58,830 --> 01:10:55,240
intelligence that put this together

1314
01:11:03,090 --> 01:10:58,840
because it certainly isn't by accident

1315
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:03,100
or by evolution well I think you're

1316
01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:05,710
absolutely right about that it's like

1317
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:09,430
you know taking I mean I've got a

1318
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:12,880
a nickel in my hand right now and I'm

1319
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:15,790
flipping it what are the odds that it's

1320
01:11:24,690 --> 01:11:20,320
going to stand on its edge you know

1321
01:11:27,690 --> 01:11:24,700
right how many times I mean it's just

1322
01:11:29,790 --> 01:11:27,700
not I mean it'll be heads or tails but

1323
01:11:32,610 --> 01:11:29,800
how many times is against stand on its

1324
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:32,620
edge its those are the kinds of odds

1325
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:34,650
that you're talking about it's

1326
01:11:47,210 --> 01:11:41,370
impossible but the I think the reason

1327
01:11:50,370 --> 01:11:47,220
behind all of this has to do with our

1328
01:11:55,860 --> 01:11:50,380
reason for being here in the first place

1329
01:11:58,890 --> 01:11:55,870
as I said the natural state of the

1330
01:12:02,040 --> 01:11:58,900
conscious self is to be existing on that

1331
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:02,050
level of pure consciousness and the

1332
01:12:12,770 --> 01:12:06,970
reason we aren't is because some of us

1333
01:12:17,090 --> 01:12:12,780
conscious selves have decided what we we

1334
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:17,100
want to dominate control and exploit

1335
01:12:27,090 --> 01:12:23,920
others and other things so for that

1336
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:27,100
reason we're now in the material level

1337
01:12:34,710 --> 01:12:31,120
of reality where we get vehicles made of

1338
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:34,720
matter and we can act out our desires to

1339
01:12:41,810 --> 01:12:38,110
dominate control and exploit others and

1340
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:41,820
the resources of material reality

1341
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:45,520
individually and collectively dividing

1342
01:12:55,050 --> 01:12:48,130
ourselves up into so many competing

1343
01:12:57,810 --> 01:12:55,060
groups now that process of dominating

1344
01:13:01,680 --> 01:12:57,820
controlling and exploiting the material

1345
01:13:04,140 --> 01:13:01,690
resources it can be done in such a way

1346
01:13:07,740 --> 01:13:04,150
that it generates a tremendous amount of

1347
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:07,750
wealth and power for people who are able

1348
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:14,010
to control it and I think that is the

1349
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:18,370
reason why they resist the idea that

1350
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,730
there is some other controller besides

1351
01:13:26,429 --> 01:13:23,760
themselves

1352
01:13:32,269 --> 01:13:26,439
you know they you know there are huge

1353
01:13:38,909 --> 01:13:34,889
institutions that have been set up on

1354
01:13:43,019 --> 01:13:38,919
the basis of trying to dominate control

1355
01:13:44,699 --> 01:13:43,029
and exploit the material resources you

1356
01:13:49,649 --> 01:13:44,709
know most people think that the main

1357
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,659
purpose of life is to produce and

1358
01:13:56,639 --> 01:13:52,239
consume more and more material things

1359
01:14:00,119 --> 01:13:56,649
but there are forces in society that

1360
01:14:05,849 --> 01:14:00,129
actually like that they like to see that

1361
01:14:09,599 --> 01:14:05,859
going on and what would change it would

1362
01:14:12,899 --> 01:14:09,609
be understanding were not just machines

1363
01:14:17,509 --> 01:14:12,909
made of molecules in an accidental

1364
01:14:23,849 --> 01:14:17,519
universe competing with each other for

1365
01:14:26,039 --> 01:14:23,859
survival if we understood well yeah I'm

1366
01:14:28,259 --> 01:14:26,049
a being a pure consciousness you're a

1367
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:28,269
being a clear consciousness were all

1368
01:14:33,899 --> 01:14:31,199
being superior consciousness what

1369
01:14:38,069 --> 01:14:33,909
cooperatively decide and how we can

1370
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:38,079
satisfy our material needs in the most

1371
01:14:43,769 --> 01:14:40,209
simple natural and efficient way

1372
01:14:48,659 --> 01:14:43,779
possible that would be a revolution in

1373
01:14:53,359 --> 01:14:48,669
human society and completely destroy the

1374
01:14:55,739 --> 01:14:53,369
existing financial political cultural

1375
01:14:58,979 --> 01:14:55,749
institutions and there are a lot of

1376
01:15:00,809 --> 01:14:58,989
forces in human society that just don't

1377
01:15:05,149 --> 01:15:00,819
want to see that happen

1378
01:15:08,579 --> 01:15:05,159
and among those forces are the

1379
01:15:12,299 --> 01:15:08,589
scientists who are promoting the idea

1380
01:15:14,699 --> 01:15:12,309
were just machines made of molecules and

1381
01:15:23,509 --> 01:15:14,709
have somehow or other popped into

1382
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:29,250
these cycles of of a human presence here

1383
01:15:36,340 --> 01:15:32,409
that have come and gone have they ended

1384
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:36,350
because of karma have they ended

1385
01:15:45,730 --> 01:15:40,810
from a catastrophic world-changing event

1386
01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:45,740
natural disaster disease what has caused

1387
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:51,710
these cycles of civilization it's the

1388
01:15:59,770 --> 01:15:56,170
nature of this level of reality that

1389
01:16:01,060 --> 01:15:59,780
anything made of matter has a beginning

1390
01:16:03,580 --> 01:16:01,070
and an end

1391
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:03,590
now for consciousness there's no

1392
01:16:10,660 --> 01:16:06,080
beginning there's no end it's never

1393
01:16:16,330 --> 01:16:10,670
created it's never destroyed and if we

1394
01:16:20,890 --> 01:16:16,340
can tap in to that deep essence of our

1395
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:20,900
being by meditation or yoga or

1396
01:16:28,450 --> 01:16:25,040
contemplation or some kind of discipline

1397
01:16:32,170 --> 01:16:28,460
then we can be situated on a platform

1398
01:16:36,930 --> 01:16:32,180
that's beyond time beyond the

1399
01:16:39,580 --> 01:16:36,940
destructive force of time but if you're

1400
01:16:42,510 --> 01:16:39,590
identifying would matter then we're

1401
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:42,520
always going to be confronted with the

1402
01:16:55,540 --> 01:16:47,690
reality that anything made of matter has

1403
01:16:59,020 --> 01:16:55,550
a beginning and an end and this is part

1404
01:17:05,320 --> 01:16:59,030
of what it means to be under the

1405
01:17:09,340 --> 01:17:05,330
influence of the time factor so there

1406
01:17:13,330 --> 01:17:09,350
are periodic devastations that take

1407
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:13,340
place that wipe out life on this level

1408
01:17:18,970 --> 01:17:16,250
of existence and on this level of

1409
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:18,980
existence there always

1410
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:21,170
we're always feeling a little bit

1411
01:17:27,580 --> 01:17:23,530
threatened whether it's some

1412
01:17:31,630 --> 01:17:27,590
environmental catastrophe or some social

1413
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:31,640
or political catastrophe or economic

1414
01:17:39,790 --> 01:17:35,930
catastrophe that that kind of thing is

1415
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:39,800
always present on this level of reality

1416
01:17:49,810 --> 01:17:45,770
so periodically there are catastrophes

1417
01:17:52,569 --> 01:17:49,820
that take place but the

1418
01:17:57,129 --> 01:17:52,579
our intelligences of the cosmos have the

1419
01:18:01,810 --> 01:17:57,139
resources to reboot the system it's like

1420
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:01,820
people nowadays they use the cloud you

1421
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:06,290
know the digital cloud to store their

1422
01:18:14,169 --> 01:18:10,250
files and songs and pictures and things

1423
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:14,179
like that in case their device it's

1424
01:18:19,629 --> 01:18:16,310
destroyed you know their cell phone or

1425
01:18:23,410 --> 01:18:19,639
their tablet or their laptop it's

1426
01:18:27,069 --> 01:18:23,420
destroyed then they can always get a new

1427
01:18:30,879 --> 01:18:27,079
one and download all their files and

1428
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:30,889
songs and pictures and whatever from the

1429
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:34,400
cloud so the the cosmos is kind of

1430
01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:37,730
structured in that way so that even if

1431
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:41,510
there are periodic devastations that

1432
01:18:50,140 --> 01:18:45,770
take place this level of reality the

1433
01:18:54,910 --> 01:18:50,150
resources are there to repopulate the

1434
01:18:58,899 --> 01:18:54,920
earth with those catastrophes pass so we

1435
01:19:02,740 --> 01:18:58,909
would recede how and that's that's an

1436
01:19:05,589 --> 01:19:02,750
interesting concept so the the universe

1437
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:05,599
the consciousness of the universe would

1438
01:19:13,569 --> 01:19:10,489
know when we needed it right after are

1439
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:13,579
we being monitored are they if you know

1440
01:19:15,490 --> 01:19:14,090
what I mean

1441
01:19:18,189 --> 01:19:15,500
you know if something catastrophic

1442
01:19:20,290 --> 01:19:18,199
happens here and whatever it is you know

1443
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:20,300
could be solar could be cosmic could be

1444
01:19:31,950 --> 01:19:24,159
natural here earthquakes whatever that

1445
01:19:37,209 --> 01:19:34,810
because when we building according to

1446
01:19:40,450 --> 01:19:37,219
many ancient wisdom traditions

1447
01:19:43,229 --> 01:19:40,460
well the scientist especially the

1448
01:19:48,609 --> 01:19:43,239
scientific community says the same thing

1449
01:19:51,490 --> 01:19:48,619
after after each catastrophic moment you

1450
01:19:53,589 --> 01:19:51,500
know 65 million years ago 100 million

1451
01:19:58,350 --> 01:19:53,599
years ago what these different moments

1452
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:00,250
eliminating things here on this planet

1453
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:03,050
nearly completely that just within a few

1454
01:20:09,730 --> 01:20:06,290
thousand years action started again or

1455
01:20:12,510 --> 01:20:09,740
when the planet got back to you know an

1456
01:20:15,940 --> 01:20:12,520
atmosphere that could support life again

1457
01:20:19,780 --> 01:20:15,950
yeah you're right about that according

1458
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:19,790
to modern paleontology there have been

1459
01:20:27,820 --> 01:20:23,690
six major extinction events in the

1460
01:20:31,300 --> 01:20:27,830
history of life on Earth at which times

1461
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:31,310
the vast majority of species have been

1462
01:20:37,420 --> 01:20:35,570
eliminated and you know it's kind of

1463
01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:37,430
interesting they say that's happened

1464
01:20:42,910 --> 01:20:39,920
over the past couple of billion years

1465
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:42,920
and according to the ancient Sanskrit

1466
01:20:50,290 --> 01:20:46,010
writings of India where they have this

1467
01:20:52,690 --> 01:20:50,300
concept of cyclical time the basic unit

1468
01:20:56,650 --> 01:20:52,700
of that cyclical time is called the

1469
01:20:59,950 --> 01:20:56,660
culpa and at last for about four billion

1470
01:21:03,340 --> 01:20:59,960
three hundred twenty million years and

1471
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:03,350
according to the Vedic cosmological

1472
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:09,010
calendar that culpa is divided into

1473
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:13,250
fourteen sub cycles each lasting about

1474
01:21:21,070 --> 01:21:18,490
300 million years called Marvin tars and

1475
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:21,080
according to the Vedic cosmological

1476
01:21:29,650 --> 01:21:25,610
calendar were now in the middle of the

1477
01:21:32,860 --> 01:21:29,660
current call cone and that means there

1478
01:21:35,790 --> 01:21:32,870
have been we're now in the seventh month

1479
01:21:40,180 --> 01:21:35,800
entire and that means there have been

1480
01:21:46,900 --> 01:21:40,190
six-month entire periods before us each

1481
01:21:50,710 --> 01:21:46,910
one is preceded by a catastrophe a

1482
01:21:54,970 --> 01:21:50,720
cosmic devastation after which the earth

1483
01:21:58,510 --> 01:21:54,980
has to be repopulated so you're right

1484
01:22:01,630 --> 01:21:58,520
even according to modern science there

1485
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:01,640
have been six major extinction events in

1486
01:22:06,970 --> 01:22:04,370
the history of life on Earth over the

1487
01:22:09,550 --> 01:22:06,980
past couple of billion years and

1488
01:22:11,169 --> 01:22:09,560
according to the ancient Sanskrit

1489
01:22:13,930 --> 01:22:11,179
writings so then the

1490
01:22:17,950 --> 01:22:13,940
which will written thousands of years

1491
01:22:21,070 --> 01:22:17,960
ago before modern science really got

1492
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:21,080
started they had the same idea there

1493
01:22:28,270 --> 01:22:24,110
have been six major extinction events in

1494
01:22:31,419 --> 01:22:28,280
the history of life on Earth going back

1495
01:22:34,330 --> 01:22:31,429
a couple billion years or so of course

1496
01:22:39,070 --> 01:22:34,340
the difference between the modern

1497
01:22:41,530 --> 01:22:39,080
scientific accounts and the the account

1498
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:41,540
that's found in these ancient wisdom

1499
01:22:48,459 --> 01:22:44,960
traditions is that according to the

1500
01:22:52,689 --> 01:22:48,469
ancient accounts humans were present in

1501
01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:52,699
all of these different cycles and modern

1502
01:23:01,050 --> 01:22:55,520
science would say only at the very end

1503
01:23:05,860 --> 01:23:01,060
of the last cycle have we appeared in

1504
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:05,870
1993 when the the book was published

1505
01:23:12,189 --> 01:23:09,290
forbidden archeology how far along were

1506
01:23:14,919 --> 01:23:12,199
you into the Sanskrit at that time and

1507
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:14,929
would you have written the book

1508
01:23:20,350 --> 01:23:17,330
differently if you weren't following the

1509
01:23:23,459 --> 01:23:20,360
Sanskrit writings or did it influence

1510
01:23:28,630 --> 01:23:23,469
you more after the book was published

1511
01:23:31,419 --> 01:23:28,640
no the influence came before actually if

1512
01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:31,429
I hadn't come in contact with the

1513
01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:34,390
ancient Sanskrit writings of India I

1514
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:38,710
probably wouldn't have even thought of

1515
01:23:47,470 --> 01:23:42,890
presenting this kind of evidence for

1516
01:23:50,290 --> 01:23:47,480
extreme human antiquity because you know

1517
01:23:55,149 --> 01:23:50,300
what I was in high school and when I was

1518
01:23:59,260 --> 01:23:55,159
in university I was just learning the

1519
01:24:03,430 --> 01:23:59,270
ideas the textbook ideas that I got from

1520
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:03,440
my teachers which are basically the

1521
01:24:12,340 --> 01:24:07,370
Darwinian evolutionary ideas about human

1522
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:12,350
origins that at that time and you know

1523
01:24:20,649 --> 01:24:15,530
what I was going to school in the 1960s

1524
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:20,659
and 1970s they had the idea that humans

1525
01:24:24,910 --> 01:24:24,050
like us first came into existence about

1526
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:24,920
40

1527
01:24:31,630 --> 01:24:28,489
thousand years ago and before that you

1528
01:24:34,030 --> 01:24:31,640
know they held there were no humans like

1529
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:34,040
us there were just various kinds of

1530
01:24:40,030 --> 01:24:37,040
eight men and before that primitive Apes

1531
01:24:44,020 --> 01:24:40,040
and monkeys and before that the first

1532
01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:44,030
primitive primates like lemurs and

1533
01:24:52,740 --> 01:24:48,310
things like that so in these ancient

1534
01:24:56,350 --> 01:24:52,750
Sanskrit writings of India I encountered

1535
01:24:59,860 --> 01:24:56,360
descriptions of human civilizations on

1536
01:25:06,010 --> 01:24:59,870
earth going got millions and millions of

1537
01:25:08,380 --> 01:25:06,020
years so I had to think is there I mean

1538
01:25:10,150 --> 01:25:08,390
what am I to think of that it's

1539
01:25:13,419 --> 01:25:10,160
something completely different than

1540
01:25:19,090 --> 01:25:13,429
anything I learned from my teachers and

1541
01:25:22,060 --> 01:25:19,100
high school or university are these

1542
01:25:24,910 --> 01:25:22,070
accounts to be taken as just mythology

1543
01:25:28,410 --> 01:25:24,920
or is there perhaps some physical

1544
01:25:33,340 --> 01:25:28,420
evidence to back them up so without

1545
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:33,350
having this alternative view from these

1546
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:35,690
ancient Sanskrit writings in India

1547
01:25:41,050 --> 01:25:37,730
I don't think I would have really had

1548
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:41,060
any reason to question what I was being

1549
01:25:48,340 --> 01:25:45,410
told by my teachers in high school and

1550
01:25:51,850 --> 01:25:48,350
university but I decide ok let me look

1551
01:25:55,900 --> 01:25:51,860
into this and of course if you look in

1552
01:25:57,939 --> 01:25:55,910
the current textbooks as I was doing you

1553
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:57,949
would only see the evidence that goes

1554
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:01,040
along with the current dominant theories

1555
01:26:10,090 --> 01:26:05,420
but I decided ok let me look beyond the

1556
01:26:13,660 --> 01:26:10,100
textbooks let me dig into the original

1557
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:13,670
scientific reports and when I started

1558
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:17,199
doing that I was really amazed to find

1559
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:21,610
that there were archeologists geologists

1560
01:26:26,979 --> 01:26:22,850
paleontologists

1561
01:26:30,610 --> 01:26:26,989
who were reporting discoveries of human

1562
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:30,620
bones human artifacts and human foot

1563
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:33,110
plants going much further back in time

1564
01:26:38,890 --> 01:26:36,880
than a few thousand years going back

1565
01:26:42,820 --> 01:26:38,900
millions and million

1566
01:26:45,790 --> 01:26:42,830
of years so I had to think well if these

1567
01:26:48,610 --> 01:26:45,800
scientists are reporting this stuff in

1568
01:26:51,820 --> 01:26:48,620
their professional scientific

1569
01:26:55,330 --> 01:26:51,830
peer-reviewed literature then why isn't

1570
01:26:59,680 --> 01:26:55,340
it making its way into the textbooks

1571
01:27:03,130 --> 01:26:59,690
yes whole I could see it was because of

1572
01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:03,140
the process of knowledge filtration that

1573
01:27:09,250 --> 01:27:06,080
was operating in the world of science

1574
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:09,260
but the short answer to your question is

1575
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:13,690
I think without my knowledge

1576
01:27:21,310 --> 01:27:17,210
that came from these ancient Sanskrit

1577
01:27:24,250 --> 01:27:21,320
writings I wouldn't have had any reason

1578
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:24,260
to write a book like forbidden

1579
01:27:31,150 --> 01:27:26,690
archeology I would have just kept

1580
01:27:34,900 --> 01:27:31,160
accepting whatever I was being told by

1581
01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:34,910
the spokespersons for the scientific

1582
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:37,910
community I'm not buying into that

1583
01:27:44,260 --> 01:27:41,510
Michael I think that you would have

1584
01:27:46,900 --> 01:27:44,270
found another path I really do I mean

1585
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:46,910
your mission on earth is is is pretty

1586
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:49,250
obvious but I think that you would have

1587
01:27:54,850 --> 01:27:51,920
you would have eventually you couldn't

1588
01:27:57,790 --> 01:27:54,860
you can't change your destiny you would

1589
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:57,800
have ended up writing the same book and

1590
01:28:01,930 --> 01:28:00,320
making the same discovery somehow let's

1591
01:28:04,930 --> 01:28:01,940
take a break right here our guest

1592
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:04,940
tonight is Michael Cremo the Forbidden

1593
01:28:09,220 --> 01:28:06,770
archaeologist and we come back we're

1594
01:28:12,940 --> 01:28:09,230
gonna stay right here we're gonna go

1595
01:28:15,870 --> 01:28:12,950
back and continue to discuss the origins

1596
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:15,880
of man we'll be right back

1597
01:28:21,610 --> 01:28:31,400
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01:28:37,610 --> 01:28:34,610
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01:28:40,140 --> 01:28:37,620
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[Music]

1663
01:32:18,500 --> 01:32:16,520
welcome back fade to black our guest

1664
01:32:21,410 --> 01:32:18,510
tonight Michael Cremo the forbidden

1665
01:32:24,110 --> 01:32:21,420
archaeologist follow me on twitter IG h

1666
01:32:26,630 --> 01:32:24,120
radio any questions or comments post

1667
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them over in twitter with hashtag f2v

1668
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and you can follow michael on twitter at

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01:32:33,710 --> 01:32:32,160
Michael Cremo and his links are right

1670
01:32:38,930 --> 01:32:33,720
there in the Twitter feed right now

1671
01:32:40,580 --> 01:32:38,940
Michael the question that gets gets to

1672
01:32:43,190 --> 01:32:40,590
you all of the time and I hear it here

1673
01:32:48,380 --> 01:32:43,200
too as well is if there was evidence

1674
01:32:51,170 --> 01:32:48,390
like this we would find it and my answer

1675
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:51,180
to that is a very simple one the the

1676
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:53,850
modern ice age you know you had much of

1677
01:33:01,150 --> 01:32:56,970
North America and Canada under two three

1678
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:01,160
four miles of ice and if Manhattan

1679
01:33:07,250 --> 01:33:04,530
existed it would have been pulverized

1680
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:07,260
into dust we wouldn't have known that

1681
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:10,410
Manhattan was there we would have to go

1682
01:33:15,890 --> 01:33:13,110
look for those clues but that's exactly

1683
01:33:18,710 --> 01:33:15,900
the case isn't it we really have to go

1684
01:33:21,770 --> 01:33:18,720
and search for this because much of it

1685
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:21,780
has just been dissolved and and and

1686
01:33:31,310 --> 01:33:25,610
pulverized you know you're absolutely

1687
01:33:35,060 --> 01:33:31,320
right about that a lot of the stuff that

1688
01:33:39,490 --> 01:33:35,070
we considered to be high-tech actually

1689
01:33:44,050 --> 01:33:39,500
doesn't last very long when we consider

1690
01:33:46,700 --> 01:33:44,060
geological time and the other than

1691
01:33:49,460 --> 01:33:46,710
interdisciplinary scientific studies

1692
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:49,470
about this topic comes up in

1693
01:33:55,820 --> 01:33:51,810
environmental studies you know sometimes

1694
01:33:59,150 --> 01:33:55,830
scientists ask well what if human beings

1695
01:34:02,290 --> 01:33:59,160
disappeared from the earth today what

1696
01:34:06,770 --> 01:34:02,300
would happen to the remains of our

1697
01:34:09,980 --> 01:34:06,780
cities and factories and automobiles and

1698
01:34:12,770 --> 01:34:09,990
jet airplanes and computers and stuff

1699
01:34:17,180 --> 01:34:12,780
like that what would happen to it all

1700
01:34:20,990 --> 01:34:17,190
and as you were kind of mentioning over

1701
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:21,000
the course of geological time things can

1702
01:34:26,810 --> 01:34:23,850
happen we mentioned the ice ages that's

1703
01:34:30,380 --> 01:34:26,820
one thing also most

1704
01:34:37,070 --> 01:34:30,390
of our major cities and towns are on

1705
01:34:40,970 --> 01:34:37,080
bodies of water rivers lakes or ocean

1706
01:34:43,790 --> 01:34:40,980
out of front and you were just

1707
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:43,800
mentioning the earthquake that happened

1708
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:46,250
in the Caribbean area and that tsunami

1709
01:34:56,900 --> 01:34:52,400
so those kinds of things can happen and

1710
01:35:00,110 --> 01:34:56,910
you know there was a a documentary that

1711
01:35:03,500 --> 01:35:00,120
appeared a few years ago on one of the

1712
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:03,510
channels like discovery or National

1713
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:06,210
Geographic was called world without us

1714
01:35:13,790 --> 01:35:10,080
and it was a scientific study of what

1715
01:35:16,430 --> 01:35:13,800
would happen to our stuff and you know

1716
01:35:19,580 --> 01:35:16,440
they concluded that after a few thousand

1717
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:19,590
years you know anything made of most

1718
01:35:29,090 --> 01:35:25,890
metals would have rusted away the floods

1719
01:35:33,010 --> 01:35:29,100
and fires and other kinds of natural

1720
01:35:36,650 --> 01:35:33,020
things would have reduced you know the

1721
01:35:43,010 --> 01:35:36,660
skyscrapers and everything to just piles

1722
01:35:47,060 --> 01:35:43,020
of gravel and you know it's so the stuff

1723
01:35:50,690 --> 01:35:47,070
that we have it really doesn't last a

1724
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:50,700
very very long time when we're thinking

1725
01:36:01,340 --> 01:35:56,960
of these vast geological periods so

1726
01:36:04,330 --> 01:36:01,350
that's why a lot of the evidence that we

1727
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:04,340
do have for a human presence and

1728
01:36:10,460 --> 01:36:07,050
millions and millions of years ago is in

1729
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:10,470
the form of bone tools and things like

1730
01:36:19,450 --> 01:36:14,690
that that are not as destructible and

1731
01:36:22,970 --> 01:36:19,460
subject to environmental degradation as

1732
01:36:25,070 --> 01:36:22,980
some of our so-called high-tech products

1733
01:36:28,580 --> 01:36:25,080
what do you think about the pyramids how

1734
01:36:32,270 --> 01:36:28,590
come they have all of the pyramids

1735
01:36:36,379 --> 01:36:32,280
actually not just Giza but why have they

1736
01:36:43,879 --> 01:36:39,439
I mean for one thing made of massive

1737
01:36:46,939 --> 01:36:43,889
stone structures not like our you know

1738
01:36:54,620 --> 01:36:46,949
like our current big buildings are just

1739
01:36:57,859 --> 01:36:54,630
on a framework of steel beams and you've

1740
01:37:01,100 --> 01:36:57,869
got plastic and different things and

1741
01:37:08,089 --> 01:37:01,110
glass plastered over it it's not very

1742
01:37:12,679 --> 01:37:08,099
stable and we learned and you know 9/11

1743
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:12,689
for example those things aren't built to

1744
01:37:17,929 --> 01:37:13,679
last

1745
01:37:20,509 --> 01:37:17,939
where you know the pyramids those are

1746
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:20,519
something that were obviously built to

1747
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:27,090
last a long long time the you know Cairo

1748
01:37:36,620 --> 01:37:31,610
was leveled like in 1300 leveled

1749
01:37:38,959 --> 01:37:36,630
pyramids they're perfect it still does

1750
01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:38,969
it does it does it you know trippy out

1751
01:37:44,270 --> 01:37:41,249
just a little bit not to use a slang

1752
01:37:47,540 --> 01:37:44,280
term there but that the King's Chamber

1753
01:37:50,449 --> 01:37:47,550
is still level square up right perfect

1754
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:50,459
and hasn't shifted when everything else

1755
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:53,280
in this planet has shifted her as fallen

1756
01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:57,360
to the ground it's pretty amazing

1757
01:38:03,020 --> 01:38:00,719
I don't understand why well I understand

1758
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:03,030
why it was engineered to do that but

1759
01:38:10,189 --> 01:38:05,760
everything else right every you know

1760
01:38:13,279 --> 01:38:10,199
right across the Nile right Cairo was

1761
01:38:16,459 --> 01:38:13,289
brought to the ground and and and the

1762
01:38:18,469 --> 01:38:16,469
the pyramids are just as they were it's

1763
01:38:21,649 --> 01:38:18,479
it's pretty fascinating and it makes you

1764
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,659
wonder if if they are much much old if

1765
01:38:27,529 --> 01:38:23,760
they aren't much much older than they

1766
01:38:32,259 --> 01:38:27,539
appear to be I wanted to ask you this so

1767
01:38:35,149 --> 01:38:32,269
if we look at this the cycle of of

1768
01:38:38,299 --> 01:38:35,159
geology and the levelling of things and

1769
01:38:41,949 --> 01:38:38,309
the layers of sediment you have been

1770
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:41,959
able to go back and and find evidence of

1771
01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:44,489
different artifacts that certainly

1772
01:38:53,089 --> 01:38:49,679
present a question to be raised is there

1773
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:53,099
you think it's more of a religious thing

1774
01:38:59,989 --> 01:38:55,920
you know religion would certainly come

1775
01:39:02,629 --> 01:38:59,999
apart if evidence is showing man as much

1776
01:39:05,660 --> 01:39:02,639
older than it is and things are

1777
01:39:07,759 --> 01:39:05,670
certainly hundreds of thousands or

1778
01:39:10,250 --> 01:39:07,769
millions of years older than what we are

1779
01:39:12,169 --> 01:39:10,260
taught religion would certainly just

1780
01:39:15,739 --> 01:39:12,179
unravel wouldn't it you would be pulling

1781
01:39:18,949 --> 01:39:15,749
the thread right out of it well it

1782
01:39:23,649 --> 01:39:18,959
depends upon what spiritual tradition

1783
01:39:27,500 --> 01:39:23,659
you're talking about you know the Vedic

1784
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:27,510
spiritual tradition of India is based on

1785
01:39:36,939 --> 01:39:32,010
the idea that there are these huge vast

1786
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:36,949
cycles of time Buddhism also has a

1787
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:43,530
similar concept that once Buddha was

1788
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:46,650
speaking to some of his disciples and he

1789
01:39:53,540 --> 01:39:49,130
was telling them about previous

1790
01:39:57,709 --> 01:39:53,550
existences of the Buddha millions and

1791
01:40:02,739 --> 01:39:57,719
millions of years ago so a lot of the

1792
01:40:08,419 --> 01:40:02,749
spiritual traditions involve vast cycles

1793
01:40:15,679 --> 01:40:08,429
of time now some some may not have that

1794
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:15,689
idea but I think even those who favor a

1795
01:40:21,830 --> 01:40:19,679
young age for the earth would say humans

1796
01:40:29,290 --> 01:40:21,840
have been around since the beginning and

1797
01:40:32,980 --> 01:40:29,300
didn't involve from apes and monkeys so

1798
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:32,990
so I don't think it's necessarily true

1799
01:40:37,629 --> 01:40:34,159
[Music]

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01:40:43,310 --> 01:40:37,639
evidence for extreme human antiquity

1801
01:40:47,810 --> 01:40:43,320
would pose a problem for every religion

1802
01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:47,820
maybe some but not all certainly so what

1803
01:40:55,839 --> 01:40:49,199
you're suggesting here and it's an

1804
01:40:58,219 --> 01:40:55,849
interesting concept is we let's say

1805
01:41:01,160 --> 01:40:58,229
archeological dig and we dig up a

1806
01:41:02,770 --> 01:41:01,170
fast-food restaurant that is 500

1807
01:41:06,770 --> 01:41:02,780
thousand years old right

1808
01:41:09,290 --> 01:41:06,780
making sure McDonald and India would

1809
01:41:11,780 --> 01:41:09,300
step up it well yeah well we've been

1810
01:41:17,140 --> 01:41:11,790
writing about this of course there would

1811
01:41:22,190 --> 01:41:17,150
be no disturbance or no ripple with that

1812
01:41:27,050 --> 01:41:22,200
no actually not yeah I've been to India

1813
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:27,060
many times and I've visited many ancient

1814
01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:32,400
temples and sacred places if you inquire

1815
01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:36,480
about the histories of these places they

1816
01:41:47,420 --> 01:41:40,400
commemorate events that took place

1817
01:41:49,850 --> 01:41:47,430
millions and millions of years ago so

1818
01:41:53,930 --> 01:41:49,860
it's really pretty amazing you know you

1819
01:41:59,480 --> 01:41:53,940
yeah I went to one temple and South

1820
01:42:03,710 --> 01:41:59,490
India at a place called Rhonda Chitra

1821
01:42:06,980 --> 01:42:03,720
and there's a huge temple of Vishnu

1822
01:42:10,790 --> 01:42:06,990
there and if you inquire about the age

1823
01:42:13,070 --> 01:42:10,800
of the temple they say well it's been

1824
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:13,080
here for millions and millions of years

1825
01:42:20,300 --> 01:42:16,530
right then rebuilt and destroyed and

1826
01:42:23,330 --> 01:42:20,310
rebuilt and you know again and again but

1827
01:42:27,010 --> 01:42:23,340
you know it commemorates events that

1828
01:42:34,810 --> 01:42:27,020
took place millions of years ago so it's

1829
01:42:39,380 --> 01:42:34,820
part of their culture and part of their

1830
01:42:41,330 --> 01:42:39,390
scriptural tradition that there's humans

1831
01:42:46,490 --> 01:42:41,340
have been around since the very

1832
01:42:49,130 --> 01:42:46,500
beginning of life on earth but of course

1833
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:49,140
in the education system there they teach

1834
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:52,890
the same kinds of ideas about human

1835
01:42:58,940 --> 01:42:55,890
history that you would find bought at a

1836
01:43:01,610 --> 01:42:58,950
university or high school in the United

1837
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:01,620
States or France or Germany or England

1838
01:43:09,950 --> 01:43:07,110
or Russia because here the scientific

1839
01:43:13,460 --> 01:43:09,960
community has a group of the education

1840
01:43:16,839 --> 01:43:13,470
system all around them all around the

1841
01:43:20,810 --> 01:43:16,849
world but if you

1842
01:43:24,379 --> 01:43:20,820
inquire about people's actual beliefs

1843
01:43:27,469 --> 01:43:24,389
and this can be better in many areas not

1844
01:43:32,979 --> 01:43:27,479
just human history find that people in

1845
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:36,679
contradicting what they're being told by

1846
01:43:43,429 --> 01:43:40,610
their teachers and schools and colleges

1847
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:43,439
that's a fascinating concept when you

1848
01:43:51,169 --> 01:43:47,610
think about it you can see the start and

1849
01:43:53,689 --> 01:43:51,179
stop of all of the temples around the

1850
01:43:58,759 --> 01:43:53,699
world where cultures have ended like

1851
01:44:01,239 --> 01:43:58,769
like in ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia and

1852
01:44:05,569 --> 01:44:01,249
Iraq and of course Greece and Rome but

1853
01:44:08,379 --> 01:44:05,579
when you take that same idea that same

1854
01:44:11,149 --> 01:44:08,389
mindset and apply it to India all of

1855
01:44:13,969 --> 01:44:11,159
that continues to this day

1856
01:44:20,089 --> 01:44:13,979
everything else is stopped right and

1857
01:44:22,969 --> 01:44:20,099
they've all that if you apply to things

1858
01:44:25,639 --> 01:44:22,979
like I'm sorry Michael I'm sorry I dude

1859
01:44:28,459 --> 01:44:25,649
I don't want to even sound rude but if

1860
01:44:31,279 --> 01:44:28,469
we go back and if or if if Egypt

1861
01:44:33,169 --> 01:44:31,289
continued we would have the same problem

1862
01:44:34,580 --> 01:44:33,179
with Egypt that we do with India how old

1863
01:44:38,869 --> 01:44:34,590
is that well I don't know we've been

1864
01:44:42,709 --> 01:44:38,879
building on this for forever it's the

1865
01:44:46,929 --> 01:44:42,719
same thing with India right yeah but

1866
01:44:49,909 --> 01:44:46,939
would depends upon whether or not the

1867
01:44:54,259 --> 01:44:49,919
Egyptians if they had if their culture

1868
01:44:57,259 --> 01:44:54,269
had continued you know say Roenick Egypt

1869
01:45:02,139 --> 01:44:57,269
if that culture had continued it would

1870
01:45:05,419 --> 01:45:02,149
depend upon whether they had kept their

1871
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:05,429
original knowledge like we were talking

1872
01:45:12,729 --> 01:45:08,510
about a little earlier in the show how

1873
01:45:15,770 --> 01:45:12,739
the Egyptian priests were telling

1874
01:45:19,639 --> 01:45:15,780
Herodotus the Greek historian who came

1875
01:45:23,419 --> 01:45:19,649
to India about the very ancient history

1876
01:45:26,179 --> 01:45:23,429
of the Greek Greek people that went back

1877
01:45:29,299 --> 01:45:26,189
much further than Herodotus himself

1878
01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:29,309
understood yes the Egyptians said we

1879
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:30,480
have the record

1880
01:45:39,550 --> 01:45:34,560
of all these previous civilizations that

1881
01:45:41,900 --> 01:45:39,560
existed going back beyond these

1882
01:45:44,990 --> 01:45:41,910
devastations that have periodically

1883
01:45:47,870 --> 01:45:45,000
taken place you've just lost your own

1884
01:45:50,810 --> 01:45:47,880
history but we still have it in our

1885
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:50,820
records and you know sometimes people

1886
01:45:55,930 --> 01:45:54,960
talk about finding the lost Hall of

1887
01:45:59,180 --> 01:45:55,940
Records

1888
01:46:03,229 --> 01:45:59,190
yeah chamber beneath the Sphinx or

1889
01:46:07,540 --> 01:46:03,239
something like that you know if so I

1890
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:07,550
think if it would all depend upon

1891
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:11,930
whether or not they maintained those

1892
01:46:19,670 --> 01:46:15,090
records of these very ancient histories

1893
01:46:24,290 --> 01:46:19,680
or whether they had been lost whether or

1894
01:46:27,290 --> 01:46:24,300
not you know Egyptian priests if they

1895
01:46:32,900 --> 01:46:27,300
had survived up to the present day would

1896
01:46:37,220 --> 01:46:32,910
understand their history or not now and

1897
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:37,230
if we go back I want to talk because

1898
01:46:43,729 --> 01:46:39,210
we're on the subject the the Paluxy

1899
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:43,739
River footprints and when we are talking

1900
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:45,840
about ancient history and the evidence

1901
01:46:51,950 --> 01:46:48,210
of all of this that you know could

1902
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:51,960
survive natural disasters and climate

1903
01:47:00,530 --> 01:46:56,970
changes and you know cosmic disasters we

1904
01:47:04,910 --> 01:47:00,540
have what should be the evidence that

1905
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:04,920
clearly would tell us all that things

1906
01:47:09,170 --> 01:47:06,570
are not what they seem and now we've got

1907
01:47:10,970 --> 01:47:09,180
to go and take a look at this what do

1908
01:47:13,250 --> 01:47:10,980
you you know I know you've written a lot

1909
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:13,260
about it but isn't that one of the best

1910
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:15,330
pieces of evidence you could use in

1911
01:47:24,050 --> 01:47:20,210
court it's interesting the Paluxy

1912
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:24,060
footprints are found in Texas you know

1913
01:47:36,460 --> 01:47:30,330
talent called Glen rose and they're out

1914
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:36,470
by the on the banks of the Paluxy River

1915
01:47:43,490 --> 01:47:40,890
there are sandstone formations and then

1916
01:47:44,220 --> 01:47:43,500
these sandstone formations they're the

1917
01:47:50,940 --> 01:47:44,230
footprint

1918
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:50,950
of dinosaurs and alongside them in some

1919
01:47:58,350 --> 01:47:55,600
places some researchers say human

1920
01:48:01,080 --> 01:47:58,360
footprints are also present in the same

1921
01:48:06,500 --> 01:48:01,090
layers and there are about a hundred

1922
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:06,510
million meters old so when I was doing

1923
01:48:14,130 --> 01:48:09,970
the research for my book forbidden

1924
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:14,140
archeology back in the 1980s I heard

1925
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:16,510
about those footprints and I read what

1926
01:48:25,970 --> 01:48:20,010
had been printed up to that point and

1927
01:48:30,540 --> 01:48:25,980
and I learned that one of the original

1928
01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:30,550
promoters of the human footprints next

1929
01:48:39,180 --> 01:48:33,820
to the dinosaur footprints a man named

1930
01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:39,190
dr. Henry Morris had withdrawn his

1931
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:43,990
original claims he'd said they're human

1932
01:48:48,900 --> 01:48:45,850
footprints next to the dinosaur

1933
01:48:52,710 --> 01:48:48,910
footprints but then he became a little

1934
01:48:54,210 --> 01:48:52,720
bit doubtful and said well maybe you

1935
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:54,220
know what I thought were human

1936
01:49:00,390 --> 01:48:57,130
footprints are actually dinosaur

1937
01:49:04,350 --> 01:49:00,400
footprints that had just been eroded a

1938
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:04,360
little bit in a funny way so because of

1939
01:49:13,950 --> 01:49:10,810
that I was I kind of didn't use that

1940
01:49:17,340 --> 01:49:13,960
case in my original book forbidden

1941
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:17,350
archeology because one of the original

1942
01:49:28,970 --> 01:49:22,480
promoters of this idea and withdrawn his

1943
01:49:32,250 --> 01:49:28,980
claims but then later from time to time

1944
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:32,260
archaeology students write to me and

1945
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:35,290
they ask is there anything I could do to

1946
01:49:42,270 --> 01:49:39,010
help you in your research so an

1947
01:49:46,170 --> 01:49:42,280
archaeology student from Texas wrote to

1948
01:49:49,710 --> 01:49:46,180
me and I said why are you go out to that

1949
01:49:55,310 --> 01:49:49,720
Paluxy River site and you tell me what

1950
01:49:58,050 --> 01:49:55,320
you think as a geology graduate student

1951
01:50:02,370 --> 01:49:58,060
so the student and we need to do

1952
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:02,380
that went out there participated in an

1953
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:04,810
excavation where they were stripping

1954
01:50:11,370 --> 01:50:08,890
away layers of sandstone rock to see if

1955
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:11,380
they could find more of these human

1956
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:13,450
footprints next to the dinosaur

1957
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:17,050
footprints and this archeology student

1958
01:50:23,970 --> 01:50:20,110
was present when some new footprints

1959
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:23,980
were uncovered and found them convincing

1960
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:27,520
and this archeology students at me

1961
01:50:34,980 --> 01:50:32,560
photographs and reports about them on

1962
01:50:38,730 --> 01:50:34,990
the basis of those new reports

1963
01:50:42,780 --> 01:50:38,740
I've decided yes this is a case that has

1964
01:50:44,010 --> 01:50:42,790
to be taken seriously and in the new

1965
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:44,020
book I'm writing

1966
01:50:51,660 --> 01:50:48,610
I'll put that case in there and more

1967
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:51,670
possible evidence for extreme human

1968
01:50:58,650 --> 01:50:55,570
antiquity I can't

1969
01:51:01,100 --> 01:50:58,660
I've squinted my eyes many times looking

1970
01:51:05,540 --> 01:51:01,110
at these footprints and tried to

1971
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:05,550
eliminate them they are human footprints

1972
01:51:14,730 --> 01:51:09,370
there's I can't imagine what else they

1973
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:14,740
could be no that's that's what I'd come

1974
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:19,450
to see as well so I mean the claim would

1975
01:51:29,970 --> 01:51:26,320
be either they are just they've been

1976
01:51:34,110 --> 01:51:29,980
carved in there somehow they're not

1977
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:34,120
really ancient or they just aren't

1978
01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:37,840
natural marks that resemble given

1979
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:39,910
footprints but as I said on the other

1980
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:41,850
basis

1981
01:51:47,970 --> 01:51:45,610
the new information that I've gotten I'm

1982
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:47,980
prepared to accept that it's evidence

1983
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:52,290
for a human presence at that time and

1984
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:57,130
100 million years ago and is there for

1985
01:52:00,990 --> 01:51:58,960
me I think like I said this is some of

1986
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:01,000
the best stuff you could use in court if

1987
01:52:08,850 --> 01:52:05,170
you were arguing this case for you what

1988
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:08,860
would be the archaeological evidence

1989
01:52:13,530 --> 01:52:10,930
that you would put forward

1990
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:13,540
is it another set of footprints what

1991
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:15,850
what would what would you use if you

1992
01:52:25,550 --> 01:52:20,170
were at the Supreme Court what I would

1993
01:52:30,350 --> 01:52:25,560
use is a massive number of reports of

1994
01:52:35,150 --> 01:52:30,360
geologists archaeologists and

1995
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:35,160
paleontologists having discovered human

1996
01:52:43,290 --> 01:52:39,130
bones human artifacts and human

1997
01:52:47,210 --> 01:52:43,300
footprints in layers of rock billions of

1998
01:52:51,210 --> 01:52:47,220
years old if you just had one or two

1999
01:52:52,860 --> 01:52:51,220
cases yeah you could maybe just say well

2000
01:52:56,430 --> 01:52:52,870
that's all right but the vast

2001
01:53:00,720 --> 01:52:56,440
preponderance of evidence suggests

2002
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:00,730
something else but what I would tell the

2003
01:53:09,150 --> 01:53:05,290
court is Your Honor we have not just one

2004
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:09,160
or two witnesses we've got nine hundred

2005
01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:12,130
witnesses in other words my book

2006
01:53:19,710 --> 01:53:15,910
forbidden archeology in which I doesn't

2007
01:53:22,580 --> 01:53:19,720
document these reports from the

2008
01:53:25,740 --> 01:53:22,590
professional scientific literature

2009
01:53:29,100 --> 01:53:25,750
showing the presence of human bones

2010
01:53:31,860 --> 01:53:29,110
human artifacts and human footprints

2011
01:53:36,450 --> 01:53:31,870
going back many millions of years is

2012
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:36,460
nine hundred pages long so we're to me

2013
01:53:44,010 --> 01:53:40,000
that is the most impressive thing the

2014
01:53:47,130 --> 01:53:44,020
amount of evidence that is reported in

2015
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:47,140
the professional scientific literature

2016
01:53:55,890 --> 01:53:51,610
about these discoveries of course among

2017
01:53:58,980 --> 01:53:55,900
all those many cases you know I have my

2018
01:54:01,800 --> 01:53:58,990
own favorites like the California gold

2019
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:01,810
mine discovery right right where you

2020
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:05,170
have had miners finding human bones and

2021
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:08,050
human artifacts at many different places

2022
01:54:17,340 --> 01:54:10,810
in the California gold mining region

2023
01:54:22,410 --> 01:54:17,350
going back 50 million years or just a

2024
01:54:24,540 --> 01:54:22,420
case that came to my attention just last

2025
01:54:28,430 --> 01:54:24,550
year 2000

2026
01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:28,440
17 the case of the footprints that were

2027
01:54:36,569 --> 01:54:32,409
discovered in Crete you know that island

2028
01:54:41,069 --> 01:54:36,579
off the coast of Greece in the Aegean

2029
01:54:44,459 --> 01:54:41,079
Sea where they found footprints that

2030
01:54:47,729 --> 01:54:44,469
looked exactly like modern human

2031
01:54:51,780 --> 01:54:47,739
footprints and there's of Rana five

2032
01:54:55,649 --> 01:54:51,790
million seven hundred thousand years old

2033
01:54:59,089 --> 01:54:55,659
so of course the scientists who found

2034
01:55:03,000 --> 01:54:59,099
him couldn't imagine that humans like us

2035
01:55:04,859 --> 01:55:03,010
made those footprints so they just

2036
01:55:07,770 --> 01:55:04,869
proposed well they must have been made

2037
01:55:09,569 --> 01:55:07,780
by some kind of eighth man who just

2038
01:55:14,549 --> 01:55:09,579
happened to have feet that looked very

2039
01:55:18,500 --> 01:55:14,559
human I mean it's just amazing how

2040
01:55:20,910 --> 01:55:18,510
sometimes this evidence can be staring

2041
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:20,920
scientist in the face and they just

2042
01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:23,520
won't accept it for what it really is

2043
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:26,800
they try to interpret it in such a way

2044
01:55:35,220 --> 01:55:32,130
that it fits their evolutionary paradigm

2045
01:55:40,410 --> 01:55:35,230
I'm looking at the Crete footprints here

2046
01:55:43,530 --> 01:55:40,420
and I've got to say that and there's

2047
01:55:48,030 --> 01:55:43,540
there's no way to question this this is

2048
01:55:50,729 --> 01:55:48,040
what it is Michael at that that's he it

2049
01:55:53,970 --> 01:55:50,739
looks like maybe father and son mother

2050
01:55:56,580 --> 01:55:53,980
and daughter yeah some of them are

2051
01:56:00,680 --> 01:55:56,590
larger smaller right right

2052
01:56:07,260 --> 01:56:03,870
yeah I mean there was one I was looking

2053
01:56:10,589 --> 01:56:07,270
at it's got five toes right now it's got

2054
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:10,599
a large first oh yeah like you look at

2055
01:56:18,049 --> 01:56:13,840
your foot the first oh the big toe is

2056
01:56:22,069 --> 01:56:18,059
larger and then the four other ones are

2057
01:56:25,229 --> 01:56:22,079
progressively a little bit smaller the

2058
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:25,239
you know in an ape or a monkey foot or

2059
01:56:32,399 --> 01:56:29,650
an 8-man but yeah the the first toe the

2060
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,409
big toe kind of moves out to the side

2061
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:34,719
like you humans if you look at your

2062
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:37,770
thumb right now see it goes at a

2063
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:40,530
the degree angle to your other other

2064
01:56:49,370 --> 01:56:46,410
fingers so but this foot is shaped

2065
01:56:52,190 --> 01:56:49,380
exactly like a modern human foot it's

2066
01:56:56,780 --> 01:56:52,200
got the ball of the foot visible the

2067
01:56:59,810 --> 01:56:56,790
heel of the foot visible yeah there were

2068
01:57:02,960 --> 01:56:59,820
a whole bunch of footprints discovered

2069
01:57:07,750 --> 01:57:02,970
there and not every single one of them

2070
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:07,760
is perfect but the best ones have

2071
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:11,040
practically every feature of a modern

2072
01:57:16,540 --> 01:57:13,770
human foot and they're found in layers

2073
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:16,550
of rock five million seven hundred

2074
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:20,610
thousand years old so this evidence

2075
01:57:27,860 --> 01:57:24,080
continues to be found although it's not

2076
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:27,870
understood by scientists for what it

2077
01:57:35,210 --> 01:57:33,330
really is they see it in terms of their

2078
01:57:39,970 --> 01:57:35,220
theories and they come up with all kinds

2079
01:57:43,730 --> 01:57:39,980
of speculative ideas to explain

2080
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:43,740
explaining evidence away yeah yeah there

2081
01:57:49,370 --> 01:57:46,080
must have been some unknown kind of

2082
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:49,380
eight man that had feet like that at

2083
01:57:58,340 --> 01:57:53,850
that time have their explanations right

2084
01:58:03,280 --> 01:57:58,350
that somehow migrated five million years

2085
01:58:05,630 --> 01:58:03,290
ago from the Western Sahara up to Crete

2086
01:58:07,790 --> 01:58:05,640
you know I don't think Lucy was

2087
01:58:10,220 --> 01:58:07,800
traveling around like that time back

2088
01:58:12,290 --> 01:58:10,230
then Michael I just don't I I have

2089
01:58:14,780 --> 01:58:12,300
issues with that but these look like and

2090
01:58:19,060 --> 01:58:14,790
I don't even think Lucy's footprints

2091
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:19,070
would have looked like this no

2092
01:58:24,290 --> 01:58:20,850
absolutely not

2093
01:58:28,580 --> 01:58:24,300
actually one of the creatures they

2094
01:58:32,630 --> 01:58:28,590
proposed as a maker of these footprints

2095
01:58:37,070 --> 01:58:32,640
was called Ardipithecus which is an

2096
01:58:43,010 --> 01:58:37,080
8-man like creature that live five to

2097
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:43,020
seven million years ago in Africa in the

2098
01:58:51,550 --> 01:58:48,570
same area as Lucy but uh but you know

2099
01:58:54,170 --> 01:58:51,560
I've looked at reconstructions

2100
01:58:56,660 --> 01:58:54,180
Ardipithecus and you look at the the

2101
01:59:00,260 --> 01:58:56,670
foot structure of it and it's like that

2102
01:59:02,300 --> 01:59:00,270
of a chimpanzee not at all like you know

2103
01:59:06,140 --> 01:59:02,310
the footprints that were found in Crete

2104
01:59:08,510 --> 01:59:06,150
which looked just like modern human

2105
01:59:12,020 --> 01:59:08,520
footprints yeah I'm looking at this one

2106
01:59:14,390 --> 01:59:12,030
clear shot of Crete and that is just a

2107
01:59:17,090 --> 01:59:14,400
modern footprint there the heels a

2108
01:59:19,700 --> 01:59:17,100
little fat I'll give it that the heels a

2109
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:19,710
little wide but the toes are perfect

2110
01:59:22,010 --> 01:59:21,090
toes are perfect let's take a break

2111
01:59:23,870 --> 01:59:22,020
right here Michael

2112
01:59:25,460 --> 01:59:23,880
this is fade to black our guest tonight

2113
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:25,470
Michael Cremo the forbidden

2114
01:59:29,210 --> 01:59:27,450
archaeologist now we went all the way

2115
01:59:32,300 --> 01:59:29,220
back in time now we're gonna jump

2116
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:32,310
forward when we come back the origins of

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01:59:34,930 --> 01:59:34,170
us with Michael Cremo

2118
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:34,940
stay with us

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open up the phone lines Michael you want

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to take a couple of phone calls yeah

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let's take some calls let's take some

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calls three two three eight two five

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five zero four or five I've ignored all

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of the phone calls tonight that we're

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coming in but I'll open them up now

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three two three eight to five five zero

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four five and what I wanted to do we've

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talked about the past but Michael today

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and it's interesting how you presented

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this earlier because I want to go here

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now today we are building computers that

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mimic the human brain we are pushing

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forward towards AI and and the

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singularity and robotics and the things

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that tech night and and reading cotton

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recording the human brain and dreams and

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brain interfaces that's where we are

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going and is this process taking us to

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an awakening a unified awakening where

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we are all connected and in our brains

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and and all of us will be as one as you

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suggest the way that the universe is

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running now are we moving in that

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direction well I think the means of

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communication and the ways of simulating

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worlds and realities and creating

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virtual realities and augmented reality

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does

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offer possibilities for better

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understanding of who we are and what we

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really are because I would say yeah we

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are we are conscious selves who are

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existing in a virtual reality and we're

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all connected in some way yes but I

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think it all depends you know things can

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be used for good purposes or bad

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purposes why the internet and you know

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it's got tremendous possibilities for

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bringing people together and providing

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for the increase of knowledge and

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understanding but it's also a vehicle

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for people to perform identity theft all

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kinds of nefarious activities on the web

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and the internet so that's so I think

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what happens is going to depend upon how

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we use the opportunities that these new

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technologies present to us and the

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unfortunate history is that new

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technologies although they sometimes

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promise positive things often turned out

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to have very negative side effects and

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can be used and dominated and controlled

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and exploited by those who as I said a

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little bit earlier want to keep us

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entangled in the world of matter and

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would rather not have us put our human

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energy into developing the resource of

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consciousness how fragile are we I mean

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right now how frat could it all come to

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an end well that's a distinct

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possibility as I was saying a little bit

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according to the Vedic teachings of

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ancient India time goes and vast cycles

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and some of these cycles are called

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UGA's there's a cycle of four Yuga's

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that happens one after another it starts

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out with a golden age the Satya Yuga

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when things are very pleasant on earth

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in terms of the environment and

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everybody being aware and respectful of

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each other and then as the ages progress

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things grow progressively worse until we

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reach the age that we're in now which is

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called Kali Yuga which is predicted to

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be an age of increasing environmental

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and social disturbance which we actually

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see happening so it's predicted that

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things yes are going to become worse in

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the future but as I mentioned a little

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bit earlier just because it's going to

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rain it doesn't mean you have to get wet

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you can shelter yourself you can shelter

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others and make the best of a bad

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02:09:46,430 --> 02:09:44,520
situation somebody just tweeted I want

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you to clarify this because I thought we

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were clear I just wanted to come from

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you the human footprints that are next

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to dinosaur footprints if that is indeed

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the case are they the same age they are

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the same straddle which belongs to the

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Cretaceous period and they're that

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formation at Glen Rose the Paluxy River

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area is about a hundred million years

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old so yes I take it that the dinosaur

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footprints and him footprints are of the

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same age would you be okay when we talk

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about reincarnation

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and you write about it so well would you

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be okay with immortality the opposite of

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that downloading yourself Michael Cremo

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onto a hard drive where you would live

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forever are you okay with that I'm okay

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with that but here's how I look at it as

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a conscious self

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I'm never created or destroyed I'm not

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the vehicle that I inhabit this bodily

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vehicle that I call Michael Cremo it

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came into existence in 1948 it will

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within a certain number of years I don't

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know how many it will perish but the

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self the conscious self that is the real

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me it's never created it's never

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destroyed it is immortal it has always

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been immortal it always will be immortal

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and it's just a question of

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understanding that the reason I don't

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necessarily appreciate that is because

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for some reason and another I falsely

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identify with the temporary vehicle that

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I'm inhabiting and because I know it's

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temporary it makes me feel uncomfortable

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but the reason I feel uncomfortable

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02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:11,280
ultimately is because I know on some

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deeper level of reality I am meant to be

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immortal and I actually am now I want to

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bring in the question of alien contact

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not the way that you think but in in

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that if and I believe that this is true

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that the universe is is all connected

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and and certainly DNA would life on

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other planets is going to have the same

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exact DNA as we have here chemicals or

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chemicals

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compounds are compounds metals or metals

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they're the same throughout the universe

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but if if that is the case if we follow

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up with what happened in 2017 with this

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sort of disclosure of et contact and

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02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:07,770
alien contact what does that suggest to

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you is there a universal algorithm for

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everything and that our et brothers may

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look exactly like we do here and that

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maybe our differences wouldn't be that

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extreme that's a possibility you know

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02:13:36,290 --> 02:13:32,330
the ancient Sanskrit writings speak of

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400,000 human-like species scattered

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throughout the entire cosmos so I don't

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think we're alone in the cosmos

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I think we're part of a whole cosmic

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hierarchy of beings but I I would say

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that I think there's a multi-dimensional

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aspect to this house I think we exist in

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a multi-level cosmos at one low level

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the cosmos we find things are dominated

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by the grosser material elements and

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that's where we find ourselves now so

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yes beings who exist on this level of

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reality will tend to have bodies made of

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the same kinds of chemical elements I

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think there's a another level of the

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cosmos that's dominated by more subtle

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elements several mental and intellectual

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energies and it's inhabited by beings

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that are adapted to the conditions there

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and in different cultures people have

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different names for these beings they

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might call them des Vosges or gods or

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goddesses or astral beings or gene or

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money too you know different cultures

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different names for these beings and

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then beyond that would be what I called

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the region of pure consciousness where

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beings have forms made of pure

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consciousness not of the chemical

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elements or the subtle more subtle

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energies so I think yes we're part of a

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whole cosmetic hierarchy of beings you

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know we're not alone in the cosmos but

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yeah and I think they're getting in at

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different times in history there's been

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more contact between the beings on this

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planet and these extraterrestrial beings

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but I would say that as beings of pure

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consciousness we're all

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extraterrestrials because consciousness

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is not from the world of matter

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it's from the world of spirit so in that

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sense

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I'd say each single one of us is an

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extraterrestrial being we're not from

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this level of reality so you know what

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let's go let's go to the phones I want

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02:16:22,190 --> 02:16:20,850
to follow up on that though hi you're

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live on fade to black say I had a

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02:16:33,020 --> 02:16:28,670
Michael Cremo hi Michael it's Annette hi

2418
02:16:38,469 --> 02:16:33,030
what do you have for us tonight so I was

2419
02:16:43,900 --> 02:16:38,479
wondering why everybody else has their

2420
02:16:48,350 --> 02:16:43,910
timelines of the previous human

2421
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:48,360
civilizations as in thousands of years

2422
02:16:56,480 --> 02:16:53,120
and Michael has his in millions of years

2423
02:17:00,860 --> 02:16:56,490
so can he explain the difference between

2424
02:17:07,850 --> 02:17:00,870
the two yes

2425
02:17:10,339 --> 02:17:07,860
what I would say to people who have the

2426
02:17:12,919 --> 02:17:10,349
idea that humans have been around only

2427
02:17:13,610 --> 02:17:12,929
firms of thousands of years rather than

2428
02:17:21,890 --> 02:17:13,620
million

2429
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:21,900
disagree about the timescales but humans

2430
02:17:26,180 --> 02:17:23,370
have been around since the beginning

2431
02:17:29,720 --> 02:17:26,190
what do we think that's a few thousand

2432
02:17:33,320 --> 02:17:29,730
years ago or a few million years ago so

2433
02:17:37,550 --> 02:17:33,330
I would I would try to see what I can

2434
02:17:40,430 --> 02:17:37,560
agree with the person about and then we

2435
02:17:43,660 --> 02:17:40,440
can have a discussion on some other time

2436
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:43,670
about whatever differences we may have

2437
02:17:55,190 --> 02:17:50,490
about the actual number of years and I'd

2438
02:17:58,209 --> 02:17:55,200
be prepared to have that discussion so

2439
02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:58,219
right what what I'm saying is not a

2440
02:18:05,390 --> 02:18:01,679
couple of thousand years I'm referring

2441
02:18:10,419 --> 02:18:05,400
to like fifty thousand years as opposed

2442
02:18:10,429 --> 02:18:14,870
uh-huh okay

2443
02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:20,000
I think it may have to do with what

2444
02:18:27,800 --> 02:18:24,210
we're prepared to accept as evidence you

2445
02:18:31,310 --> 02:18:27,810
know if we accept only the evidence that

2446
02:18:34,459 --> 02:18:31,320
we find in the current textbooks then we

2447
02:18:38,530 --> 02:18:34,469
might think I mean actually the textbook

2448
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:38,540
idea is that the very first simple

2449
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:43,130
village life began about ten or twelve

2450
02:18:50,540 --> 02:18:47,610
thousand years ago before that they

2451
02:18:54,500 --> 02:18:50,550
would say humans were just living as

2452
02:18:58,580 --> 02:18:54,510
hunters and gatherers traveling around

2453
02:19:03,709 --> 02:18:58,590
they never had any system of Agriculture

2454
02:19:06,320 --> 02:19:03,719
or domestic animals no settled village

2455
02:19:10,280 --> 02:19:06,330
life they were just roaming through the

2456
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:10,290
forests and fields hunting and gathering

2457
02:19:18,890 --> 02:19:16,290
whatever they could to survive and the

2458
02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:18,900
current textbook idea is that simple

2459
02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:22,290
village life and Agriculture's started

2460
02:19:28,030 --> 02:19:25,050
about ten or twelve thousand years ago

2461
02:19:32,030 --> 02:19:28,040
and then they would say the four

2462
02:19:35,330 --> 02:19:32,040
civilizations the first cities came into

2463
02:19:42,370 --> 02:19:35,340
existence six or seven thousand years

2464
02:19:46,959 --> 02:19:42,380
ago in Sumeria and Egypt and China and

2465
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:46,969
the Indus Valley Civilisation and yeah

2466
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:49,920
so that's the standard idea but I I

2467
02:19:58,330 --> 02:19:53,210
think there's a lot of evidence that

2468
02:20:01,670 --> 02:19:58,340
suggests humans have been around in

2469
02:20:03,190 --> 02:20:01,680
civilized form for a lot longer than

2470
02:20:16,220 --> 02:20:03,200
that

2471
02:20:18,670 --> 02:20:16,230
window at 12,000 years ago there was not

2472
02:20:21,830 --> 02:20:18,680
supposed to be organization certainly

2473
02:20:25,430 --> 02:20:21,840
Stone Age man 12,000 years ago didn't

2474
02:20:28,480 --> 02:20:25,440
know how to quarry massive blocks right

2475
02:20:30,770 --> 02:20:28,490
that's a whole nother thing and

2476
02:20:34,430 --> 02:20:30,780
obviously they had some sort of

2477
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:34,440
government you had a leader but maybe an

2478
02:20:38,330 --> 02:20:36,210
organized religion

2479
02:20:40,190 --> 02:20:38,340
you had agriculture you had a town you

2480
02:20:43,160 --> 02:20:40,200
had something that was there that was

2481
02:20:46,220 --> 02:20:43,170
supporting all of the coring of those

2482
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:46,230
rocks you had to feed these guys right

2483
02:20:53,830 --> 02:20:49,920
and and and you had to design this so

2484
02:20:58,430 --> 02:20:53,840
gobekli tepe clearly throws that out and

2485
02:21:01,310 --> 02:20:58,440
Gobekli Tepe suggest a smart technically

2486
02:21:04,880 --> 02:21:01,320
advanced civilization at that time at

2487
02:21:08,801 --> 02:21:04,890
the edge of the Ice Age on top of that

2488
02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:08,811
where it shouldn't have existed at all

2489
02:21:15,470 --> 02:21:11,850
right I think the caller was talking

2490
02:21:18,470 --> 02:21:15,480
about perhaps human civilizations going

2491
02:21:20,750 --> 02:21:18,480
back fifteen thousand years yes she

2492
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:20,760
still would yeah tonight still they're

2493
02:21:25,220 --> 02:21:23,610
still that still even if it's not

2494
02:21:30,011 --> 02:21:25,230
millions of years

2495
02:21:34,551 --> 02:21:30,021
still it kind of contradicts the current

2496
02:21:39,261 --> 02:21:34,561
textbook sorts of ideas that people are

2497
02:21:41,511 --> 02:21:39,271
taught in school University now if we do

2498
02:21:46,770 --> 02:21:41,521
Antonette thank you for the phone call

2499
02:21:50,430 --> 02:21:46,780
thank you yeah thank you if we if we

2500
02:21:52,650 --> 02:21:50,440
look at this is where I have a problem

2501
02:21:59,180 --> 02:21:52,660
and hopefully we can finish this before

2502
02:22:03,180 --> 02:21:59,190
the end of the show is is this we are

2503
02:22:05,940 --> 02:22:03,190
supposed to have been here for about 150

2504
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:05,950
to 200,000 years mitochondrial DNA the

2505
02:22:10,530 --> 02:22:08,050
chasing back of everything that we can

2506
02:22:14,370 --> 02:22:10,540
the best evidence that we have says that

2507
02:22:17,250 --> 02:22:14,380
there if we look at what Darwin has

2508
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:17,260
suggested and the amount of time that it

2509
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:20,650
would have taken us to evolve into us we

2510
02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:22,800
are talking about millions of years and

2511
02:22:28,590 --> 02:22:26,290
that is clearly not the case and budding

2512
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:28,600
up against us as cro-magnon and

2513
02:22:34,200 --> 02:22:31,930
Neanderthal and that had nothing to do

2514
02:22:37,980 --> 02:22:34,210
with us whatsoever we may have some

2515
02:22:41,340 --> 02:22:37,990
traces of DNA there but we didn't evolve

2516
02:22:44,520 --> 02:22:41,350
from Neanderthal the time didn't allow

2517
02:22:47,370 --> 02:22:44,530
for that to happen or cro-magnon so

2518
02:22:50,850 --> 02:22:47,380
where are the millions of years it would

2519
02:22:56,460 --> 02:22:50,860
have taken us to evolve it just doesn't

2520
02:23:03,080 --> 02:22:56,470
exist does it yeah I think it's very

2521
02:23:09,960 --> 02:23:03,090
difficult to explain things like that so

2522
02:23:12,810 --> 02:23:09,970
the alternative is that we have to take

2523
02:23:15,990 --> 02:23:12,820
seriously the evidence for extreme human

2524
02:23:18,750 --> 02:23:16,000
antiquity and just understand we've

2525
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:18,760
always been here for as long as there's

2526
02:23:27,420 --> 02:23:23,050
been an earth and we were put here for a

2527
02:23:30,840 --> 02:23:27,430
purpose that's it I mean and it's not

2528
02:23:34,700 --> 02:23:30,850
hard for me to understand that when when

2529
02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:34,710
we look at the other scholars out there

2530
02:23:42,930 --> 02:23:37,660
and Richard Dawkins of course comes to

2531
02:23:45,060 --> 02:23:42,940
mind where they refuse to accept that

2532
02:23:48,810 --> 02:23:45,070
there may be a higher intelligence out

2533
02:23:51,540 --> 02:23:48,820
there in the universe that has designed

2534
02:23:54,199 --> 02:23:51,550
everything not only in this universe but

2535
02:23:57,899 --> 02:23:54,209
previous universes right

2536
02:24:00,979 --> 02:23:57,909
universes and a multiverse that that

2537
02:24:04,349 --> 02:24:00,989
answers a lot of questions easily and

2538
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:04,359
and it's it's easier to just wrap your

2539
02:24:11,609 --> 02:24:08,170
head around then it was just blind luck

2540
02:24:14,849 --> 02:24:11,619
but yet they have millions of followers

2541
02:24:18,779 --> 02:24:14,859
you know it's nearly religious the way

2542
02:24:24,809 --> 02:24:18,789
that they look at things and he's an

2543
02:24:28,290 --> 02:24:24,819
atheist well I think one thing that

2544
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:28,300
would help in countries that consider

2545
02:24:36,929 --> 02:24:33,520
themselves democratic and free as if the

2546
02:24:40,910 --> 02:24:36,939
supporters of those kinds of ideas were

2547
02:24:45,139 --> 02:24:40,920
not given a monopoly in the education

2548
02:24:48,689 --> 02:24:45,149
system you know because there are some

2549
02:24:52,040 --> 02:24:48,699
scientists and philosophers and other

2550
02:24:55,949 --> 02:24:52,050
kinds of scholars who are proposing

2551
02:24:59,760 --> 02:24:55,959
alternatives to the Darwinian theory of

2552
02:25:01,939 --> 02:24:59,770
evolution and in the scientific and

2553
02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:01,949
academic worlds they may be in a

2554
02:25:10,309 --> 02:25:06,130
minority at the present moment but just

2555
02:25:17,250 --> 02:25:10,319
because you're a minority doesn't mean

2556
02:25:20,160 --> 02:25:17,260
that your views should be excluded you

2557
02:25:22,819 --> 02:25:20,170
know that that you know we normally

2558
02:25:30,660 --> 02:25:22,829
wouldn't tolerate something like that

2559
02:25:34,949 --> 02:25:30,670
you know say say we say America is a

2560
02:25:38,489 --> 02:25:34,959
predominantly Christian country that may

2561
02:25:41,160 --> 02:25:38,499
be true but we wouldn't allow the

2562
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:41,170
government to say that in the textbook

2563
02:25:48,330 --> 02:25:45,130
of the history of this country you can't

2564
02:25:53,849 --> 02:25:48,340
make any mention of Judaism or Islam or

2565
02:25:56,489 --> 02:25:53,859
Buddhism or Hinduism or whatever no just

2566
02:25:58,949 --> 02:25:56,499
because somebody's in the majority

2567
02:26:03,559 --> 02:25:58,959
doesn't give them the right to just

2568
02:26:06,779 --> 02:26:03,569
teach their ideas only and nobody else's

2569
02:26:07,889 --> 02:26:06,789
ideas we wouldn't tolerate you know

2570
02:26:11,880 --> 02:26:07,899
government

2571
02:26:14,880 --> 02:26:11,890
that but right now we are tolerating the

2572
02:26:17,250 --> 02:26:14,890
government saying okay the majority of

2573
02:26:20,429 --> 02:26:17,260
scientists now accept the theory of

2574
02:26:22,710 --> 02:26:20,439
evolution so only that is going to be

2575
02:26:25,130 --> 02:26:22,720
mentioned in the textbooks right and

2576
02:26:28,489 --> 02:26:25,140
every other idea is going to be excluded

2577
02:26:32,399 --> 02:26:28,499
even though there are millions of people

2578
02:26:38,130 --> 02:26:32,409
and dozens of scientists and academics

2579
02:26:42,569 --> 02:26:38,140
who are proposing these things so I

2580
02:26:45,029 --> 02:26:42,579
think that would be a step in the right

2581
02:26:48,330 --> 02:26:45,039
direction of course people have so many

2582
02:26:50,609 --> 02:26:48,340
other problems on their minds you know

2583
02:26:54,330 --> 02:26:50,619
maybe this isn't at the top of their

2584
02:26:56,790 --> 02:26:54,340
minds but eventually seems like people

2585
02:27:01,040 --> 02:26:56,800
should ask their political

2586
02:27:04,319 --> 02:27:01,050
representatives to take away this

2587
02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:04,329
monopoly that the supporters of the

2588
02:27:11,179 --> 02:27:07,449
Darwinian theory of evolution and been

2589
02:27:14,580 --> 02:27:11,189
given in the education system and allow

2590
02:27:17,639 --> 02:27:14,590
alternatives to be expressed not even

2591
02:27:21,659 --> 02:27:17,649
giving equal time okay it can be

2592
02:27:25,710 --> 02:27:21,669
proportional say 95% of the scientists

2593
02:27:30,090 --> 02:27:25,720
accept evolution alright give them 95%

2594
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:30,100
of the textbook pages but in the

2595
02:27:36,750 --> 02:27:33,850
remaining 5% of the pages present in a

2596
02:27:38,929 --> 02:27:36,760
neutral and objective way that there are

2597
02:27:41,460 --> 02:27:38,939
other researchers who are proposing

2598
02:27:44,609 --> 02:27:41,470
alternatives and then just let the

2599
02:27:47,370 --> 02:27:44,619
students make up their lives what's

2600
02:27:51,449 --> 02:27:47,380
under the last question what some of the

2601
02:27:55,620 --> 02:27:51,459
ice in Antarctica I would like to know

2602
02:28:00,059 --> 02:27:55,630
that I mean I hear different things I

2603
02:28:01,679 --> 02:28:00,069
haven't seen any any real reports you

2604
02:28:04,279 --> 02:28:01,689
know it's kind of interesting that there

2605
02:28:09,779 --> 02:28:04,289
was something there was a map that was

2606
02:28:15,170 --> 02:28:09,789
made in the 14th century or so Perry

2607
02:28:18,439 --> 02:28:15,180
Rios raised yeah yes yes that shows what

2608
02:28:21,820 --> 02:28:18,449
Antarctica looks like under the ice and

2609
02:28:25,420 --> 02:28:21,830
that that is pretty the only way

2610
02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:25,430
that somebody could have drawn an

2611
02:28:31,960 --> 02:28:28,640
accurate map of what Antarctica looks

2612
02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:31,970
like under the ice was been at a time

2613
02:28:39,580 --> 02:28:35,330
when the ice wasn't there which was

2614
02:28:40,090 --> 02:28:39,590
millions and millions of years ago you

2615
02:28:44,590 --> 02:28:40,100
know

2616
02:28:46,990 --> 02:28:44,600
so this Pyrrhus raised math which was

2617
02:28:53,160 --> 02:28:47,000
copied from another map which was copied

2618
02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:53,170
from another map it could be that the

2619
02:29:00,340 --> 02:28:56,410
person who made the peerless Ray's map

2620
02:29:05,500 --> 02:29:00,350
was in touch with a tradition that had

2621
02:29:10,301 --> 02:29:05,510
survived since the time that Antarctica

2622
02:29:14,380 --> 02:29:10,311
wasn't covered by the Ice Ice Sheet that

2623
02:29:17,230 --> 02:29:14,390
it's covered with now yeah and you know

2624
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:17,240
like gobekli tepe they couldn't that was

2625
02:29:22,270 --> 02:29:19,130
discovered the way it was discovered

2626
02:29:25,210 --> 02:29:22,280
also we could see it and and walk to it

2627
02:29:28,210 --> 02:29:25,220
but with Antarctica there's no way for

2628
02:29:30,011 --> 02:29:28,220
us to confirm or deny anything that's

2629
02:29:33,070 --> 02:29:30,021
going on down there it's impossible for

2630
02:29:35,230 --> 02:29:33,080
us to go you have to be allowed to go to

2631
02:29:36,940 --> 02:29:35,240
Antarctica that's just the way that it

2632
02:29:41,140 --> 02:29:36,950
is do you think that they are

2633
02:29:44,410 --> 02:29:41,150
suppressing that information it could be

2634
02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:44,420
actually at one point I actually wanted

2635
02:29:50,830 --> 02:29:47,570
to do I was in the United States Navy

2636
02:29:53,950 --> 02:29:50,840
and I had been posted at a water station

2637
02:29:56,051 --> 02:29:53,960
and Iceland and I wanted to volunteer to

2638
02:29:58,900 --> 02:29:56,061
go down to Antarctica

2639
02:30:00,580 --> 02:29:58,910
never happened but it would have been

2640
02:30:04,450 --> 02:30:00,590
something I would have got to see

2641
02:30:06,970 --> 02:30:04,460
firsthand yeah I guess you can go down

2642
02:30:10,600 --> 02:30:06,980
there on cruise boats you know there's

2643
02:30:13,240 --> 02:30:10,610
some cruisers then occasionally go down

2644
02:30:17,380 --> 02:30:13,250
to Antarctica but to find out like you

2645
02:30:19,690 --> 02:30:17,390
said what's really going on there you

2646
02:30:21,850 --> 02:30:19,700
know I think you have to go a little bit

2647
02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:21,860
deeper than that yeah yeah they're not

2648
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:23,690
gonna let you and I go down there and

2649
02:30:29,440 --> 02:30:26,930
jump on some snowmobiles you know and

2650
02:30:32,170 --> 02:30:29,450
just run willy-nilly and just go visit

2651
02:30:34,630 --> 02:30:32,180
and check things out that that no no it

2652
02:30:35,410 --> 02:30:34,640
just won't happen and when you look at

2653
02:30:38,310 --> 02:30:35,420
some of the

2654
02:30:46,420 --> 02:30:38,320
things that they have found down there

2655
02:30:49,900 --> 02:30:46,430
recently such as leaves right tropical

2656
02:30:53,080 --> 02:30:49,910
things in in in the ice which clearly

2657
02:30:57,670 --> 02:30:53,090
suggests that it was tropical and green

2658
02:30:59,860 --> 02:30:57,680
at one point it was yes you know which

2659
02:31:02,800 --> 02:30:59,870
suggests that somebody was living there

2660
02:31:04,570 --> 02:31:02,810
of course but they don't want to tell us

2661
02:31:06,969 --> 02:31:04,580
that and you know that they're finding

2662
02:31:08,950 --> 02:31:06,979
things all the time probably the more

2663
02:31:11,320 --> 02:31:08,960
extreme things and then that could be

2664
02:31:15,190 --> 02:31:11,330
evidence of it being Atlantis I don't

2665
02:31:18,460 --> 02:31:15,200
know but they won't let us you know ask

2666
02:31:20,860 --> 02:31:18,470
any questions or find out or or go and

2667
02:31:23,500 --> 02:31:20,870
and act as observers it just it just

2668
02:31:26,110 --> 02:31:23,510
doesn't happen that way which makes us

2669
02:31:28,420 --> 02:31:26,120
go to the extreme thoughts right that's

2670
02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:28,430
the only you know you have to ask those

2671
02:31:33,490 --> 02:31:31,850
questions why can't we why can't we go

2672
02:31:35,110 --> 02:31:33,500
down there why can't we find out things

2673
02:31:40,210 --> 02:31:35,120
on our own why do you have to keep it to

2674
02:31:43,630 --> 02:31:40,220
yourselves yeah so it's pretty

2675
02:31:46,510 --> 02:31:43,640
challenging environment down there it's

2676
02:31:48,760 --> 02:31:46,520
getting more unchallenging though it's

2677
02:31:52,570 --> 02:31:48,770
called global warming eventually it's

2678
02:31:55,179 --> 02:31:52,580
all going to melt and we're gonna have

2679
02:31:58,570 --> 02:31:55,189
Google Maps to go and check out if you

2680
02:32:05,650 --> 02:31:58,580
know what I mean right so what's the new

2681
02:32:07,360 --> 02:32:05,660
book coming out I I'm working on it I

2682
02:32:10,179 --> 02:32:07,370
can't say it's going to come out

2683
02:32:12,940 --> 02:32:10,189
tomorrow it's something that I'm

2684
02:32:15,670 --> 02:32:12,950
continuing continually working on I wish

2685
02:32:18,700 --> 02:32:15,680
I were more prolific authors and I could

2686
02:32:21,370 --> 02:32:18,710
come out with a new book every year but

2687
02:32:24,490 --> 02:32:21,380
forbidden archeology took me eight years

2688
02:32:27,640 --> 02:32:24,500
of research and writing to do because I

2689
02:32:30,850 --> 02:32:27,650
tried to be very thorough on what I'm

2690
02:32:34,630 --> 02:32:30,860
doing so the follow-up book is forbidden

2691
02:32:36,520 --> 02:32:34,640
archeology I'm still working on I would

2692
02:32:41,320 --> 02:32:36,530
hope to have it finished in the next

2693
02:32:45,880 --> 02:32:41,330
year or two but if people want to see

2694
02:32:48,390 --> 02:32:45,890
what I some more recent writing of mine

2695
02:32:51,511 --> 02:32:48,400
I write a column for Atlanta

2696
02:32:54,841 --> 02:32:51,521
rising magazine that's called the

2697
02:32:58,200 --> 02:32:54,851
forbidden archaeologist that comes out

2698
02:33:02,070 --> 02:32:58,210
kind of every two two months that

2699
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:02,080
magazine comes out six times a year so

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02:33:08,940 --> 02:33:05,650
that's sometimes why right about some of

2701
02:33:17,671 --> 02:33:08,950
my current research are you going to be

2702
02:33:19,950 --> 02:33:17,681
speaking anywhere let's see in April I'm

2703
02:33:23,850 --> 02:33:19,960
scheduled to speak at a conference

2704
02:33:28,650 --> 02:33:23,860
that's being organized by Michael tell

2705
02:33:34,591 --> 02:33:28,660
injure in South Africa he he calls it

2706
02:33:37,081 --> 02:33:34,601
his Ubuntu conference and I'm kind of

2707
02:33:39,631 --> 02:33:37,091
looking forward to that haven't been to

2708
02:33:42,631 --> 02:33:39,641
South Africa in a while right

2709
02:33:45,751 --> 02:33:42,641
yeah his one that one photograph of the

2710
02:33:51,270 --> 02:33:45,761
upright Dino or the upright footprint

2711
02:33:53,251 --> 02:33:51,280
you know the giant the giant bulrush let

2712
02:33:58,890 --> 02:33:53,261
me just I'm gonna ask you straight is

2713
02:34:02,251 --> 02:33:58,900
that real well it's a real object you

2714
02:34:05,070 --> 02:34:02,261
know it's huge I mean the footprint of

2715
02:34:09,180 --> 02:34:05,080
course it's standing up vertical now and

2716
02:34:11,341 --> 02:34:09,190
it's in granite now normally you would

2717
02:34:14,581 --> 02:34:11,351
expect a footprint to be made in

2718
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:14,591
sedimentary rock like sandstone or

2719
02:34:23,341 --> 02:34:17,530
something like that rather than in an

2720
02:34:28,770 --> 02:34:23,351
igneous rock granite yet which was like

2721
02:34:32,131 --> 02:34:28,780
molten lava at one point so but it's

2722
02:34:37,011 --> 02:34:32,141
pretty amazing you know it's about six

2723
02:34:41,461 --> 02:34:37,021
or seven feet tall - just the footprint

2724
02:34:43,711 --> 02:34:41,471
huge and it's a real object I'll have to

2725
02:34:46,801 --> 02:34:43,721
ask him about it when I go down there

2726
02:34:50,220 --> 02:34:46,811
yeah I've asked him about it several

2727
02:34:51,841 --> 02:34:50,230
times and it's an extraordinary you look

2728
02:34:53,910 --> 02:34:51,851
at the picture he's got some great

2729
02:34:56,940 --> 02:34:53,920
pictures of himself standing next to it

2730
02:34:59,490 --> 02:34:56,950
and he look at that and it's - it's just

2731
02:35:02,220 --> 02:34:59,500
too good to be true it's too good

2732
02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:02,230
to be true and it's in granite it's red

2733
02:35:06,630 --> 02:35:03,730
granite yeah somebody just posted a

2734
02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:06,640
picture of it that's and and it looks

2735
02:35:13,500 --> 02:35:10,720
like I don't know how old granite would

2736
02:35:20,030 --> 02:35:13,510
have to be in its early stages for it to

2737
02:35:28,410 --> 02:35:24,810
rock what was there well what's the

2738
02:35:31,110 --> 02:35:28,420
point in between molten and when it

2739
02:35:32,850 --> 02:35:31,120
starts to turn into real granite I

2740
02:35:34,980 --> 02:35:32,860
wonder what a geologist was I have to

2741
02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:34,990
ask a geologist about that because they

2742
02:35:41,220 --> 02:35:37,690
can AIDS granite so at the baby stages

2743
02:35:44,700 --> 02:35:41,230
of granite right very early is there a

2744
02:35:50,280 --> 02:35:44,710
point where for a thousand years where

2745
02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:50,290
maybe it's just soft not too hot right

2746
02:35:55,110 --> 02:35:52,810
not too hot right right right

2747
02:36:01,740 --> 02:35:55,120
or maybe this guy stepped in it and went

2748
02:36:03,930 --> 02:36:01,750
ouch yeah obviously he was about a

2749
02:36:06,390 --> 02:36:03,940
hundred feet tall yeah yeah it's an

2750
02:36:09,300 --> 02:36:06,400
incredible picture Michael thank you so

2751
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:09,310
much give my best to Lori she's the best

2752
02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:12,010
and I look forward to having you back on

2753
02:36:16,410 --> 02:36:14,110
the show and everybody just go over to

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02:36:18,840 --> 02:36:16,420
Michael Cremo em cremeux dot-com and the

2755
02:36:21,300 --> 02:36:18,850
links are at Jimmy Church radio and of

2756
02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:21,310
course Alanis rising magazine thank you

2757
02:36:24,770 --> 02:36:22,690
so much and thank you for everything

2758
02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:24,780
that you do you're the best

2759
02:36:31,950 --> 02:36:28,570
Thank You Jimmy thank you Michael Cremo

2760
02:36:35,400 --> 02:36:31,960
everybody and again it's Michael Cremo

2761
02:36:37,080 --> 02:36:35,410
dot-com or M cream Oh calm the links are

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02:36:40,410 --> 02:36:37,090
over at Jimmy Church radio calm you can

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02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:40,420
follow Michael on Twitter at Michael

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02:36:42,750 --> 02:36:40,930
Cremo

2765
02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:42,760
it's right there we've got it up in

2766
02:36:46,950 --> 02:36:45,610
Twitter right now and I'll be right back

2767
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:46,960
I'm going to go ahead and open up the

2768
02:36:51,480 --> 02:36:48,610
phone lines we'll just open up

2769
02:36:54,060 --> 02:36:51,490
everything do some open lines to the end

2770
02:36:58,960 --> 02:36:54,070
of the night thank you Michael I'll see

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02:37:16,790 --> 02:37:13,450
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you didn't have so many wrinkles that

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02:41:18,290 --> 02:41:13,200
all right welcome back Peter black

2848
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Michael Cremo the smartest guys I know

2849
02:41:21,930 --> 02:41:20,890
great conversation tonight gotta listen

2850
02:41:23,690 --> 02:41:21,940
to this one again

2851
02:41:26,460 --> 02:41:23,700
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2852
02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:26,470
Emma cream Oh calm the links are over at

2853
02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:28,960
Jimmy's Church radio.com and you can

2854
02:41:32,670 --> 02:41:30,610
follow them on twitter at Michael Cremo

2855
02:41:38,910 --> 02:41:32,680
all right I'm opening up the phone lines

2856
02:41:44,400 --> 02:41:38,920
3 to 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 or 5 or 3 2 3 2 7 5 9

2857
02:41:45,660 --> 02:41:44,410
6 9 5 and let's let's talk about this

2858
02:41:47,360 --> 02:41:45,670
what did you think about that

2859
02:41:51,210 --> 02:41:47,370
conversation

2860
02:41:55,620 --> 02:41:51,220
Michael presents some of the best

2861
02:42:01,020 --> 02:41:55,630
evidence that that is out there about us

2862
02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:01,030
being here forever and the idea that I

2863
02:42:06,060 --> 02:42:04,090
mean I'm looking at this Antarctica

2864
02:42:09,270 --> 02:42:06,070
package here I'm gonna talk about this

2865
02:42:18,620 --> 02:42:09,280
in just a second thank you for that the

2866
02:42:21,780 --> 02:42:18,630
idea of us being sent here via DNA

2867
02:42:25,290 --> 02:42:21,790
forever and like he was talking about in

2868
02:42:27,360 --> 02:42:25,300
the Vedic scripts that suggests a four

2869
02:42:29,460 --> 02:42:27,370
and a half billion dollars like oh it's

2870
02:42:32,880 --> 02:42:29,470
a four and a half billion here a billion

2871
02:42:38,210 --> 02:42:32,890
dollar billion year cycle of time that's

2872
02:42:44,301 --> 02:42:38,220
pretty interesting and the after each

2873
02:42:47,490 --> 02:42:44,311
mass extinction event that we were just

2874
02:42:50,310 --> 02:42:47,500
repopulated right that there we are

2875
02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:50,320
being monitored right that they know out

2876
02:42:57,180 --> 02:42:55,210
there the universe knows when when

2877
02:42:59,250 --> 02:42:57,190
things like this happen and as soon as

2878
02:43:06,210 --> 02:42:59,260
our atmosphere adjust and if you think

2879
02:43:08,730 --> 02:43:06,220
about this going back to 65 million

2880
02:43:12,360 --> 02:43:08,740
years ago right you know an asteroid

2881
02:43:14,460 --> 02:43:12,370
hits the earth boom the climate change

2882
02:43:18,000 --> 02:43:14,470
kicks in we've got dust up in the

2883
02:43:19,530 --> 02:43:18,010
atmosphere and and other things up in

2884
02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:19,540
the atmosphere blocking out the Sun

2885
02:43:26,130 --> 02:43:22,930
think about the you know sub free

2886
02:43:28,580 --> 02:43:26,140
seeing temperatures around for tens of

2887
02:43:32,309 --> 02:43:28,590
thousands of years until everything gets

2888
02:43:36,809 --> 02:43:32,319
back to normal you know Gaia mother

2889
02:43:39,570 --> 02:43:36,819
earth adjusts itself back to and we've

2890
02:43:42,650 --> 02:43:39,580
got clouds and and rain and and things

2891
02:43:46,469 --> 02:43:42,660
get back to normal boom repopulated

2892
02:43:52,400 --> 02:43:46,479
right think about that that is it just

2893
02:43:56,219 --> 02:43:52,410
makes sense there is no time for

2894
02:44:00,320 --> 02:43:56,229
evolution in the Darwinian sense to take

2895
02:44:04,260 --> 02:44:00,330
place 65 million years ago that

2896
02:44:07,229 --> 02:44:04,270
evolution just happened and all of the

2897
02:44:10,410 --> 02:44:07,239
tens of thousands of species that are

2898
02:44:11,939 --> 02:44:10,420
alive right now just evolved now I just

2899
02:44:13,740 --> 02:44:11,949
I just don't buy into that doesn't make

2900
02:44:16,559 --> 02:44:13,750
any sense how you're live on fade to

2901
02:44:19,260 --> 02:44:16,569
black who's calling hi this is me who

2902
02:44:21,420 --> 02:44:19,270
are you hi who's me me again Oh Meegan

2903
02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:21,430
how are you it sounds like you're saying

2904
02:44:33,179 --> 02:44:30,460
me again okay me again would you think

2905
02:44:35,490 --> 02:44:33,189
about the conversation tonight okay at

2906
02:44:37,500 --> 02:44:35,500
three points okay and I'll try to make

2907
02:44:39,479 --> 02:44:37,510
it as quick as possible I promise you me

2908
02:44:42,330 --> 02:44:39,489
so the first point I have to get off

2909
02:44:44,040 --> 02:44:42,340
this stupid train you know I don't want

2910
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:44,050
to go through this for a million zillion

2911
02:44:49,439 --> 02:44:47,770
years and be in any be suffering for

2912
02:44:51,210 --> 02:44:49,449
karma that I did like a million years

2913
02:44:55,349 --> 02:44:51,220
ago that I have no clue about

2914
02:44:57,000 --> 02:44:55,359
second of all well if it is true and all

2915
02:44:59,189 --> 02:44:57,010
these children that are in the hospital

2916
02:45:00,960 --> 02:44:59,199
suffering from cancer bone cancer all

2917
02:45:02,460 --> 02:45:00,970
this horrible stuff all these poor

2918
02:45:04,679 --> 02:45:02,470
people that are suffering from all these

2919
02:45:07,080 --> 02:45:04,689
horrible conditions and all these people

2920
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:07,090
in India and Asia and everywhere we're

2921
02:45:10,590 --> 02:45:08,410
suffering from all these horrible

2922
02:45:12,210 --> 02:45:10,600
illnesses aren't it's all because of

2923
02:45:15,150 --> 02:45:12,220
their karma from their past life which

2924
02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:15,160
is total I'm sorry I have super issues

2925
02:45:19,800 --> 02:45:17,770
with that mm-hmm third of all third of

2926
02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:19,810
all I believe in the consciousness but I

2927
02:45:25,830 --> 02:45:22,330
also believe in a 3d consciousness I

2928
02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:25,840
believe that you know we are here to

2929
02:45:30,630 --> 02:45:28,720
evolve but I don't you know given what

2930
02:45:34,500 --> 02:45:30,640
I've experienced and what I know and

2931
02:45:36,541 --> 02:45:34,510
which I get I bet tons of people on to

2932
02:45:39,150 --> 02:45:36,551
listen to this radio show having

2933
02:45:42,241 --> 02:45:39,160
in the some degree you know given that

2934
02:45:45,751 --> 02:45:42,251
they're drawn to your show is that there

2935
02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:45,761
is freedom in consciousness and to think

2936
02:45:54,360 --> 02:45:48,730
that we are tied to matter for the rest

2937
02:45:57,421 --> 02:45:54,370
of the millennial or for the rest of the

2938
02:45:59,610 --> 02:45:57,431
eternity is you know earth is beautiful

2939
02:46:01,440 --> 02:45:59,620
and I love the fact that I got to

2940
02:46:04,291 --> 02:46:01,450
experience it and I can love the fact

2941
02:46:06,841 --> 02:46:04,301
but you know humans are doing horrible

2942
02:46:08,371 --> 02:46:06,851
things to it and I think Earth has its

2943
02:46:12,301 --> 02:46:08,381
own consciousness and I think it's

2944
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:12,311
kicking our ass out yeah now and three

2945
02:46:19,381 --> 02:46:17,110
great points now let me let me go to

2946
02:46:24,211 --> 02:46:19,391
point number two first and then we'll do

2947
02:46:26,341 --> 02:46:24,221
one in three if we if we talk about the

2948
02:46:28,980 --> 02:46:26,351
diseases around the world where people

2949
02:46:30,991 --> 02:46:28,990
are suffering and and you're suggesting

2950
02:46:39,150 --> 02:46:31,001
that they're paying for past sins right

2951
02:46:41,280 --> 02:46:39,160
or past lives yes but this is where okay

2952
02:46:43,801 --> 02:46:41,290
I'm gonna give you my idea on this and

2953
02:46:46,081 --> 02:46:43,811
then it's weird how it ties in actually

2954
02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:46,091
with Michaels so hear me out for a

2955
02:46:48,631 --> 02:46:47,650
second I hope we have enough time is

2956
02:46:53,511 --> 02:46:48,641
this

2957
02:46:59,940 --> 02:46:53,521
we have screwed up our own DNA

2958
02:47:04,890 --> 02:46:59,950
we have reintroduced back into the gene

2959
02:47:09,150 --> 02:47:04,900
pool diseases and things and and what I

2960
02:47:11,970 --> 02:47:09,160
mean by that is if if you have if you

2961
02:47:13,741 --> 02:47:11,980
look at a herd of animals right and you

2962
02:47:15,690 --> 02:47:13,751
see in the herd of animals you know

2963
02:47:19,201 --> 02:47:15,700
running across the plains of Africa or

2964
02:47:21,961 --> 02:47:19,211
or across you know Canada a herd of

2965
02:47:24,480 --> 02:47:21,971
animals and there's the the couple of in

2966
02:47:27,720 --> 02:47:24,490
the back that are strut scraggly you

2967
02:47:32,850 --> 02:47:27,730
know they can't keep up they just can't

2968
02:47:36,780 --> 02:47:32,860
keep up they aren't allowed to reproduce

2969
02:47:39,810 --> 02:47:36,790
back in - right though that genetic

2970
02:47:43,081 --> 02:47:39,820
issue that is with whatever is going on

2971
02:47:45,720 --> 02:47:43,091
with that the weak link is not allowed

2972
02:47:49,389 --> 02:47:45,730
back into is not allowed to have

2973
02:47:52,899 --> 02:47:49,399
children so but here

2974
02:47:54,460 --> 02:47:52,909
humans that's what I'm serving right

2975
02:47:56,590 --> 02:47:54,470
right right

2976
02:48:00,040 --> 02:47:56,600
so let me finish exactly you're getting

2977
02:48:04,210 --> 02:48:00,050
where I'm going so with us we've got all

2978
02:48:07,239 --> 02:48:04,220
these genetic things in in DNA that we

2979
02:48:11,469 --> 02:48:07,249
have allowed back into us and we are

2980
02:48:14,469 --> 02:48:11,479
paying for that price now going back to

2981
02:48:18,519 --> 02:48:14,479
what and I'm talking about cancers and

2982
02:48:20,769 --> 02:48:18,529
and and muscular dystrophy and just

2983
02:48:23,050 --> 02:48:20,779
things right that we have allowed back

2984
02:48:25,540 --> 02:48:23,060
into the gene pool and that's what

2985
02:48:28,569 --> 02:48:25,550
Michael is talking about too if you

2986
02:48:31,389 --> 02:48:28,579
think about it that we are paying for

2987
02:48:34,389 --> 02:48:31,399
that mass karma together as a

2988
02:48:37,149 --> 02:48:34,399
civilization and maybe we just need to

2989
02:48:41,319 --> 02:48:37,159
start back over with some clean jeans

2990
02:48:47,260 --> 02:48:41,329
again some clean DNA that we have to

2991
02:48:50,529 --> 02:48:47,270
just end we've polluted we need to the

2992
02:48:52,269 --> 02:48:50,539
people who are promoting the things that

2993
02:48:54,699 --> 02:48:52,279
are causing the cancers and causing

2994
02:48:57,069 --> 02:48:54,709
these diseases and gaslighting the

2995
02:48:59,050 --> 02:48:57,079
people who you know who are trying to

2996
02:49:02,109 --> 02:48:59,060
heal themselves or gas lining the

2997
02:49:05,260 --> 02:49:02,119
medical doctors who wants to heal the

2998
02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:05,270
silver stick with natural medical unit

2999
02:49:11,710 --> 02:49:09,050
medications or you know we need to shut

3000
02:49:14,050 --> 02:49:11,720
them up so that we can you know clean

3001
02:49:16,830 --> 02:49:14,060
ourselves up you know it's but that's

3002
02:49:19,719 --> 02:49:16,840
not happening like we're not we're not

3003
02:49:23,199 --> 02:49:19,729
you know together as a voice are you

3004
02:49:28,290 --> 02:49:23,209
okay with yes and I agree with you so

3005
02:49:32,050 --> 02:49:28,300
are you okay with us scientifically

3006
02:49:34,960 --> 02:49:32,060
correcting DNA are you okay with gene

3007
02:49:38,529 --> 02:49:34,970
splicing are you okay with going in and

3008
02:49:43,420 --> 02:49:38,539
removing those Bad's sections of DNA

3009
02:49:45,399 --> 02:49:43,430
that have in diseases no because there's

3010
02:49:50,649 --> 02:49:45,409
been some diseases that have actually

3011
02:49:53,139 --> 02:49:50,659
helped I forget what it was there was

3012
02:49:55,540 --> 02:49:53,149
some like smallpox or some not smallpox

3013
02:49:58,929 --> 02:49:55,550
but maybe somebody on listening might

3014
02:50:02,170 --> 02:49:58,939
know but some disease or some DNA factor

3015
02:50:03,341 --> 02:50:02,180
that actually switched on something else

3016
02:50:06,131 --> 02:50:03,351
that was a good thing

3017
02:50:08,921 --> 02:50:06,141
so certain things can be triggers to

3018
02:50:11,381 --> 02:50:08,931
other good things you know some diseases

3019
02:50:15,251 --> 02:50:11,391
can be triggers to good thing so or it

3020
02:50:17,980 --> 02:50:15,261
can be a factor to help you know cure

3021
02:50:20,051 --> 02:50:17,990
another illness you know we have I think

3022
02:50:25,390 --> 02:50:20,061
we have the genetic code inside of us

3023
02:50:29,470 --> 02:50:25,400
you cook to clean up ourselves to to to

3024
02:50:32,320 --> 02:50:29,480
heal ourselves you know to turn on those

3025
02:50:33,970 --> 02:50:32,330
switches we just need to understand them

3026
02:50:36,881 --> 02:50:33,980
but instead we want to give these

3027
02:50:38,950 --> 02:50:36,891
antibiotics antibiotics these others who

3028
02:50:41,020 --> 02:50:38,960
are not going to be that are only going

3029
02:50:45,251 --> 02:50:41,030
to cause us to become more resistant to

3030
02:50:48,520 --> 02:50:45,261
health in a healthful ways and so you

3031
02:50:49,990 --> 02:50:48,530
know I mean I don't believe in splicing

3032
02:50:51,881 --> 02:50:50,000
or any because then you start getting

3033
02:50:53,261 --> 02:50:51,891
into you know I want a blue I mean I

3034
02:50:55,180 --> 02:50:53,271
have nothing against blue-eyed

3035
02:50:57,720 --> 02:50:55,190
blonde-haired people are beautiful but I

3036
02:51:00,761 --> 02:50:57,730
don't say like you know like you know

3037
02:51:03,160 --> 02:51:00,771
there's you know warm eyes and you know

3038
02:51:06,190 --> 02:51:03,170
and and you know there's lots of

3039
02:51:08,320 --> 02:51:06,200
different ways you can you know cashmere

3040
02:51:10,480 --> 02:51:08,330
child of the day you know I don't know

3041
02:51:12,160 --> 02:51:10,490
it's I don't think that that's right

3042
02:51:14,140 --> 02:51:12,170
either well yes thank you

3043
02:51:16,421 --> 02:51:14,150
genetically modifying your children I

3044
02:51:18,730 --> 02:51:16,431
don't know about that well yet some of

3045
02:51:23,620 --> 02:51:18,740
the greatest human minds were physically

3046
02:51:39,270 --> 02:51:23,630
unfit you know they were there certainly

3047
02:51:46,841 --> 02:51:43,150
it is hard Stephen Hawking was end of

3048
02:51:47,650 --> 02:51:46,851
the herd material wasn't he if you know

3049
02:51:52,301 --> 02:51:47,660
what I'm saying

3050
02:51:55,541 --> 02:51:52,311
right yeah so is is it is it the soul

3051
02:52:00,041 --> 02:51:55,551
that goes through evolution you know and

3052
02:52:02,530 --> 02:52:00,051
maybe not the body yeah well that's the

3053
02:52:04,900 --> 02:52:02,540
problem the problem issue I have is like

3054
02:52:06,520 --> 02:52:04,910
what do you tell a child you know if

3055
02:52:08,591 --> 02:52:06,530
they and it which brings me to the

3056
02:52:11,410 --> 02:52:08,601
fourth point which was and not be always

3057
02:52:13,390 --> 02:52:11,420
you know teaching us in school I prefer

3058
02:52:14,890 --> 02:52:13,400
to be out of school not even part of

3059
02:52:16,450 --> 02:52:14,900
school any of this it should be a

3060
02:52:17,160 --> 02:52:16,460
theology class it should be something

3061
02:52:19,170 --> 02:52:17,170
that if they

3062
02:52:21,330 --> 02:52:19,180
learn about consciousness and anything

3063
02:52:24,090 --> 02:52:21,340
outside of like the brutal and factual

3064
02:52:26,820 --> 02:52:24,100
data that we have on file then that

3065
02:52:30,030 --> 02:52:26,830
should be a separate thing because then

3066
02:52:34,080 --> 02:52:30,040
we start getting into you know what is

3067
02:52:37,050 --> 02:52:34,090
this fluke thinking you know as I slice

3068
02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:37,060
it in half you know it's it's I don't

3069
02:52:41,130 --> 02:52:39,010
know you know it's hard to think that

3070
02:52:42,660 --> 02:52:41,140
you know it's hard to tell a child you

3071
02:52:43,950 --> 02:52:42,670
know guess what you're dealing with what

3072
02:52:47,070 --> 02:52:43,960
you're dealing with because of the you

3073
02:52:50,310 --> 02:52:47,080
know societal Conor well and so what do

3074
02:52:53,420 --> 02:52:50,320
you do when a child comes up to you your

3075
02:52:58,350 --> 02:52:53,430
child comes up and says you know mom

3076
02:53:02,760 --> 02:52:58,360
what is the missing link how are you

3077
02:53:05,250 --> 02:53:02,770
going to answer you know start a path of

3078
02:53:06,690 --> 02:53:05,260
discovery with that child and let them

3079
02:53:08,160 --> 02:53:06,700
build their own decisions

3080
02:53:11,429 --> 02:53:08,170
you know based off of the information

3081
02:53:12,960 --> 02:53:11,439
that you build on as you go along I mean

3082
02:53:14,969 --> 02:53:12,970
if you come up with a definitive answer

3083
02:53:17,370 --> 02:53:14,979
and I'm having issues with people going

3084
02:53:20,010 --> 02:53:17,380
this is how it's going this is how it is

3085
02:53:22,350 --> 02:53:20,020
you know I know what this alien thinks

3086
02:53:24,360 --> 02:53:22,360
back you know in you know a billion you

3087
02:53:26,190 --> 02:53:24,370
know miles away from us you know it's

3088
02:53:28,860 --> 02:53:26,200
like how do you know you don't know that

3089
02:53:31,770 --> 02:53:28,870
so let's somebody think let's somebody

3090
02:53:36,480 --> 02:53:31,780
build their own path they you know grow

3091
02:53:39,890 --> 02:53:36,490
and make their own mistakes and you know

3092
02:53:42,450 --> 02:53:39,900
and that's what humans do right I mean

3093
02:53:45,690 --> 02:53:42,460
how do you know so much Jimmy and that's

3094
02:53:47,850 --> 02:53:45,700
how your listeners know so much and you

3095
02:53:50,040 --> 02:53:47,860
know we we start down a path we start

3096
02:53:51,900 --> 02:53:50,050
just is interesting I'm going to learn

3097
02:53:55,740 --> 02:53:51,910
more about it and then you decide okay I

3098
02:53:57,600 --> 02:53:55,750
kind of you know I I resonate with this

3099
02:53:58,710 --> 02:53:57,610
one speaker more than I do this other

3100
02:54:00,870 --> 02:53:58,720
speaker so I'm going to go in this

3101
02:54:03,960 --> 02:54:00,880
direction you know and help that child

3102
02:54:06,840 --> 02:54:03,970
find their way not telling them for sure

3103
02:54:10,800 --> 02:54:06,850
you know God is you know God is true or

3104
02:54:14,940 --> 02:54:10,810
comma is real or you know it's let them

3105
02:54:18,570 --> 02:54:14,950
figure it out themselves right and and

3106
02:54:21,679 --> 02:54:18,580
that's what I do but this is the problem

3107
02:54:24,510 --> 02:54:21,689
with that though this is what I find

3108
02:54:29,340 --> 02:54:24,520
what I've this is what I have to fight

3109
02:54:30,440 --> 02:54:29,350
because if we do if we do live our lives

3110
02:54:32,390 --> 02:54:30,450
that way and

3111
02:54:34,341 --> 02:54:32,400
teach our children that then suddenly

3112
02:54:37,370 --> 02:54:34,351
that some of the things that are black

3113
02:54:41,030 --> 02:54:37,380
and white they refuse to believe like

3114
02:54:44,270 --> 02:54:41,040
two plus two equals four no it doesn't

3115
02:54:46,100 --> 02:54:44,280
because you've told me that not to trust

3116
02:54:49,190 --> 02:54:46,110
anything and to go find a mommy you know

3117
02:54:53,511 --> 02:54:49,200
in that and I know I'm being extreme

3118
02:54:56,301 --> 02:54:53,521
here but then they see there are some

3119
02:54:59,000 --> 02:54:56,311
great textbooks out there there's lots

3120
02:55:00,770 --> 02:54:59,010
of great information and if you teach

3121
02:55:03,410 --> 02:55:00,780
them that you have to question

3122
02:55:06,230 --> 02:55:03,420
everything every step of the way they're

3123
02:55:09,310 --> 02:55:06,240
never going to learn they're gonna spend

3124
02:55:11,570 --> 02:55:09,320
their lives questioning right yeah I

3125
02:55:13,341 --> 02:55:11,580
completely agree with you I was one of

3126
02:55:21,921 --> 02:55:13,351
those kids it's like why does 1 plus 1

3127
02:55:23,660 --> 02:55:21,931
equal to and I was annoying and the

3128
02:55:25,310 --> 02:55:23,670
other part of that is you know we talk

3129
02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:25,320
about all the time about children being

3130
02:55:30,770 --> 02:55:28,410
born into the reality where UFOs are

3131
02:55:32,960 --> 02:55:30,780
real right this new generation that are

3132
02:55:35,900 --> 02:55:32,970
out there they accept yeah and that's

3133
02:55:40,341 --> 02:55:35,910
gonna be now isn't that an evolution of

3134
02:55:43,400 --> 02:55:40,351
consciousness mm-hmm right absolutely

3135
02:55:50,870 --> 02:55:43,410
and then how do you how do you give them

3136
02:55:52,780 --> 02:55:50,880
I mean oh gosh that's that and I hate to

3137
02:55:55,671 --> 02:55:52,790
say crazy I know that's bad but

3138
02:55:57,110 --> 02:55:55,681
seriously I mean so many people can pray

3139
02:56:02,631 --> 02:55:57,120
no there's going to be so many more

3140
02:56:04,910 --> 02:56:02,641
people to prey on that's why this show

3141
02:56:07,430 --> 02:56:04,920
exists we're just gonna do our part

3142
02:56:09,230 --> 02:56:07,440
thank you so much Megan and we'll see

3143
02:56:12,591 --> 02:56:09,240
you tomorrow night you know who we have

3144
02:56:14,450 --> 02:56:12,601
on tomorrow night right oh yeah we'll

3145
02:56:18,020 --> 02:56:14,460
see you right here it's Corey good thank

3146
02:56:20,150 --> 02:56:18,030
you so much vegan look Cheers we'll see

3147
02:56:22,460 --> 02:56:20,160
you tomorrow night right here yeah I

3148
02:56:26,750 --> 02:56:22,470
mean it's that's the problem that we

3149
02:56:29,030 --> 02:56:26,760
have it's so funny I sit here and I tell

3150
02:56:30,680 --> 02:56:29,040
everybody question everything you know

3151
02:56:33,110 --> 02:56:30,690
you look at the mass media flip every

3152
02:56:36,440 --> 02:56:33,120
single story over 180 degrees you know

3153
02:56:38,150 --> 02:56:36,450
and and if we teach our children that

3154
02:56:41,240 --> 02:56:38,160
which I do by the way

3155
02:56:43,841 --> 02:56:41,250
then suddenly we've got everybody

3156
02:56:49,581 --> 02:56:47,361
against the grain and and then how do we

3157
02:56:51,140 --> 02:56:49,591
how do we move forward and then you know

3158
02:56:55,701 --> 02:56:51,150
and then I'm going to say well you know

3159
02:56:59,390 --> 02:56:55,711
what don't trust this textbook but trust

3160
02:57:02,871 --> 02:56:59,400
this one you know wait a minute here

3161
02:57:06,980 --> 02:57:02,881
that's that's the problem that we have

3162
02:57:11,781 --> 02:57:06,990
you know I do I do look at everyone I

3163
02:57:15,411 --> 02:57:11,791
look at when I watch something on Nat

3164
02:57:18,560 --> 02:57:15,421
Geo right now watch Matt go1 gobekli

3165
02:57:22,310 --> 02:57:18,570
tepe or Nat Geo on the Sphinx or Egypt

3166
02:57:25,730 --> 02:57:22,320
or anything I'm at you I swear I don't

3167
02:57:30,020 --> 02:57:25,740
believe any of it I really don't I

3168
02:57:32,151 --> 02:57:30,030
almost laugh it is that right you know

3169
02:57:34,701 --> 02:57:32,161
and Nat Geo trying to be the the

3170
02:57:39,651 --> 02:57:34,711
definitive the Encyclopedia Britannica

3171
02:57:43,791 --> 02:57:39,661
of information right of history and I

3172
02:57:47,241 --> 02:57:43,801
watch it I'm just I just laugh I laugh I

3173
02:57:50,810 --> 02:57:47,251
almost find some of the thoughts and

3174
02:57:57,730 --> 02:57:50,820
presentations not only on Egypt but on

3175
02:57:59,810 --> 02:57:57,740
history a Nat Geo I find it as comedy I

3176
02:58:02,091 --> 02:57:59,820
almost look at it that way it's just

3177
02:58:04,671 --> 02:58:02,101
like they don't they know about all of

3178
02:58:07,100 --> 02:58:04,681
the other new research out there that is

3179
02:58:09,711 --> 02:58:07,110
completely contradicting everything that

3180
02:58:13,640 --> 02:58:09,721
they're presenting right now don't they

3181
02:58:15,890 --> 02:58:13,650
know how wrong they really are it's

3182
02:58:19,791 --> 02:58:15,900
really really funny it's so outdated

3183
02:58:22,701 --> 02:58:19,801
it really is kind of like Darwin alright

3184
02:58:24,831 --> 02:58:22,711
concludes another episode of fade to

3185
02:58:26,991 --> 02:58:24,841
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3186
02:58:29,060 --> 02:58:27,001
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3187
02:58:31,161 --> 02:58:29,070
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3188
02:58:32,961 --> 02:58:31,171
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02:58:34,850 --> 02:58:32,971
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3190
02:58:37,640 --> 02:58:34,860
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Network I'm your host Jimmy church

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tomorrow night right here

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Cory good until then everybody be safe